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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Koutny <mkoutny@suse.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Aashish Sharma <shraash@google.com>,
	Shin Kawamura <kawasin@google.com>,
	Vineeth Remanan Pillai <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/2] sched/deadline: Check bandwidth overflow earlier for hotplug
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 11:43:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b5c29cd-7083-4815-bf73-7c93dfdebef8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z6sWfsAqBlGhnkN_@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>

On 11/02/2025 10:21, Juri Lelli wrote:
> On 11/02/25 09:36, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>> On 10/02/2025 18:09, Juri Lelli wrote:
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking a look as well.
>>>
>>> On 07/02/25 15:55, Christian Loehle wrote:
>>>> On 2/7/25 14:04, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/02/2025 13:38, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/02/2025 11:38, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 09:29, Juri Lelli wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05/02/25 16:56, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks! That did make it easier :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is what I see ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still different from what I can repro over here, so, unfortunately, I
>>>>>>>> had to add additional debug printks. Pushed to the same branch/repo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could I ask for another run with it? Please also share the complete
>>>>>>>> dmesg from boot, as I would need to check debug output when CPUs are
>>>>>>>> first onlined.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you have a system with 2 big and 4 LITTLE CPUs (Denver0 Denver1 A57_0
>>>>>> A57_1 A57_2 A57_3) in one MC sched domain and (Denver1 and A57_0) are
>>>>>> isol CPUs?
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that 1-2 are the denvers (even thought they are listed as 0-1 in device-tree).
>>>>
>>>> Interesting, I have yet to reproduce this with equal capacities in isolcpus.
>>>> Maybe I didn't try hard enough yet.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> This should be easy to set up for me on my Juno-r0 [A53 A57 A57 A53 A53 A53]
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I think it is similar to this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I could reproduce that on a different LLLLbb with isolcpus=3,4 (Lb) and
>>>> the offlining order:
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu5/online
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/online
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/online
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu4/online
>>>>
>>>> while the following offlining order succeeds:
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu5/online
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu4/online
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/online
>>>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/online
>>>> (Both offline an isolcpus last, both have CPU0 online)
>>>>
>>
>> Could reproduce on Juno-r0:
>>
>> 0 1 2 3 4 5
>>
>> L b b L L L
>>
>>       ^^^
>>       isol = [3-4] so both L
>>
>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online
>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu4/online
>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu5/online
>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/online - isol
>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/online - isol
>>
>>>> The issue only triggers with sugov DL threads (I guess that's obvious, but
>>>> just to mention it).
>>
>> IMHO, it doesn't have to be a sugov DL task. Any DL task will do.
> 
> OK, but in this case we actually want to fail. If we have allocated
> bandwidth for an actual DL task (not a dl server or a 'fake' sugov), we
> don't want to inadvertently leave it w/o bandwidth by turning CPUs off.

Obviously ... ;-)

Same platform w/ isol = [2-3] with slow switching CPUfreq driver to
force having 'sugov' tasks.

# ps2 | grep DLN
   95    95 S 140      0   - DLN sugov:0
   96    96 S 140      0   - DLN sugov:1

# taskset -p 95; taskset -p 96
pid 95's current affinity mask: 39
pid 96's current affinity mask: 6

offline order: CPU1 -> 4 -> 5 -> 3 -> 2

...

pid 95's current affinity mask: 1
pid 96's current affinity mask: 4

root@juno:~# echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/online
[  227.673757] dl_bw_cpus() cpu=6 rd->span=1-5 cpu_active_mask=0,2 cpus=1
[  227.680329] dl_bw_cpus() cpu=6 rd->span=1-5 cpu_active_mask=0,2 cpus=1
[  227.686882] dl_bw_manage: cpu=2 cap=0 fair_server_bw=52428 total_bw=157285 dl_bw_cpus=1 type=DEF span=1-5
[  227.686900] dl_bw_cpus() cpu=6 rd->span=1-5 cpu_active_mask=0,2 cpus=1
[  227.703066] dl_bw_manage() cpu=2 cap=0 overflow=1 return=-16
-bash: echo: write error: Device or resource busy

So it seems 'sugov:1' getting in the way here.

pid 95's current affinity mask: 1
pid 96's current affinity mask: 5

Looks like it's not a 'bL' issue but rather one with '>=2 CPU frequency
policies' and slow-switching CPUfreq drivers.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-11 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20241114142810.794657-1-juri.lelli@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <ZzYhyOQh3OAsrPo9@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>
     [not found]   ` <Zzc1DfPhbvqDDIJR@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>
2025-01-10 11:52     ` [PATCH v2 3/2] sched/deadline: Check bandwidth overflow earlier for hotplug Jon Hunter
2025-01-10 15:45       ` Juri Lelli
2025-01-10 18:40         ` Jon Hunter
2025-01-13  9:32           ` Juri Lelli
2025-01-13 13:53             ` Jon Hunter
2025-01-14 13:52             ` Jon Hunter
2025-01-14 14:02               ` Juri Lelli
2025-01-15 16:10                 ` Juri Lelli
2025-01-16 13:14                   ` Jon Hunter
2025-01-16 15:55                     ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-03 11:01                       ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-04 17:26                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-05  6:53                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-05 10:12                           ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-05 16:56                             ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-06  9:29                               ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-07 10:38                                 ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-07 13:38                                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-07 14:04                                     ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-07 15:55                                       ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-10 17:09                                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-11  8:36                                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-11  9:21                                             ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-11 10:43                                               ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2025-02-11 10:15                                           ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-11 10:42                                             ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-12 18:22                                               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-13  6:20                                                 ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-13 12:27                                                   ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-13 13:33                                                     ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-13 13:38                                                       ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-13 14:51                                                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-13 14:57                                                           ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-16 16:33                                                   ` Qais Yousef
2025-02-17 14:52                                                     ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-22 23:59                                                       ` Qais Yousef
2025-02-24  9:27                                                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-25  0:02                                                           ` Qais Yousef
2025-02-25  9:46                                                             ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-25 10:09                                                               ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-12 23:01                                               ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-13  6:16                                                 ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-13  9:53                                                   ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-14 10:05                                                     ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-17 16:08                                                       ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-17 16:10                                                         ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-17 16:25                                                           ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-18  9:58                                                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-18 10:30                                                           ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-18 14:12                                                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-18 14:18                                                             ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-19  9:29                                                               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-19 10:02                                                                 ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-19 11:23                                                                   ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-19 13:09                                                                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-19 18:14                                                                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-20 10:40                                                                       ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-20 15:25                                                                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-21 11:56                                                                           ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-21 14:45                                                                             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-24 13:53                                                                               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-24 14:03                                                                                 ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-24 23:39                                                                                   ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-25  9:48                                                                                     ` Juri Lelli
2025-03-03 14:17                                                                                       ` Jon Hunter
2025-03-03 16:00                                                                                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-02-07 14:04                                     ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-07 15:52                                   ` Juri Lelli

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