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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Anatol Pomozov
	<anatol.pomozov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Thierry Reding
	<thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano
	<daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Russell King <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] timekeeping: Move persistent clock registration code from ARM to kernel
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:26:44 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1411140123060.3935@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLXYVLXZafNH_ag3WDFHkhMe5t23zLbvg7Sq+4_rTfy+Kw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, John Stultz wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Aside of that I really wonder why we need that persistent_clock stuff
> > at all. We already have mechanisms to register persistent clocks AKA
> > RTCs after the early boot process and update the wall clock time
> > before we actually need it. Nothing in early boot depends on correct
> > wall clock at all.
> >
> > So instead of adding more extra persistent clock nonsense, can we just
> > move all of that to the place where it belongs, i.e. RTC?
> 
> Sigh.. I've got this on an eventual todo list.. The big problem though
> is that the RTC infrastructure can't be called with irqs off, so its
> not as optimal for measuring suspend time. Some of the suspend-time
> measurement with clocksources that don't halt is interesting here.
> 
> So we need to add to the RTC infrastructure special accessors that are
> safe when irqs are off, and we can then deprecate the persistent clock
> bits. There's still evaluation quirks with setting the time earlier in
> boot or not (possibly some rng effects as well there), but that could
> be worked out if we had the suspend timing via safe RTC interfaces
> sorted.

So we better work on this instead of creating more legacy enforcement
APIs....

Thanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-14  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-07 19:34 [PATCH] timekeeping: Move persistent clock registration code from ARM to kernel Anatol Pomozov
     [not found] ` <1415388855-35074-1-git-send-email-anatol.pomozov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-07 19:42   ` Anatol Pomozov
2014-11-10  9:53   ` Thierry Reding
2014-11-10 19:26     ` Anatol Pomozov
     [not found]       ` <CAOMFOmXpAm5iKCLFyorTW+n9YmgZMmrDGGe736tJX8C6BYQv-A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-13 22:46         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-13 23:21           ` John Stultz
     [not found]             ` <CALAqxLXYVLXZafNH_ag3WDFHkhMe5t23zLbvg7Sq+4_rTfy+Kw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-14  0:26               ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2015-01-09  9:43             ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-09 19:18               ` John Stultz
2014-11-14 22:03           ` Anatol Pomozov
     [not found]             ` <CAOMFOmVziftM=pWGG-L9J-E6AHYAK7k9bmBcpS1adPboLciX9g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-15  0:18               ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-15  0:51                 ` Anatol Pomozov
     [not found]                   ` <CAOMFOmV5=tes6Ak1eUKb2qircp8ba6jt6v-bg66Kp_-jYk9m2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-15  1:09                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-15  1:38                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-09  9:49                         ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-09 13:59                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-09 14:09                             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                               ` <20150109140902.GA7526-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 19:48                                 ` Paul Walmsley
2015-01-09 13:30                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-15  1:07               ` Stephen Warren

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