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From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Joseph Lo <josephl@nvidia.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/8] dt-bindings: memory: tegra: Add external memory controller binding for Tegra210
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 16:50:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3909c66-5aa4-161b-98d4-02ad20e02c88@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63360b18-6a17-ab3f-6c54-6e11e24885d0@nvidia.com>

15.05.2019 10:17, Joseph Lo пишет:
> On 5/15/19 12:28 AM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 10.05.2019 11:47, Joseph Lo пишет:
>>> Add the binding document for the external memory controller (EMC) which
>>> communicates with external LPDDR4 devices. It includes the bindings of
>>> the EMC node and a sub-node of EMC table which under the reserved memory
>>> node. The EMC table contains the data of the rates that EMC supported.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Joseph Lo <josephl@nvidia.com>
>>> ---
>>> v3:
>>> - drop the bindings of EMC table
>>> - add memory-region and reserved-memory node for EMC table
>>> ---
>>>   .../nvidia,tegra210-emc.txt                   | 55 +++++++++++++++++++
>>>   1 file changed, 55 insertions(+)
>>>   create mode 100644
>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/memory-controllers/nvidia,tegra210-emc.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> diff --git
>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/memory-controllers/nvidia,tegra210-emc.txt
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/memory-controllers/nvidia,tegra210-emc.txt
>>>
>>> new file mode 100644
>>> index 000000000000..d65aeef2329c
>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/memory-controllers/nvidia,tegra210-emc.txt
>>>
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@
>>> +NVIDIA Tegra210 SoC EMC (external memory controller)
>>> +====================================================
>>> +
>>> +Device node
>>> +===========
>>> +Required properties :
>>> +- compatible : should be "nvidia,tegra210-emc".
>>> +- reg : physical base address and length of the controller's registers.
>>> +- clocks : phandles of the possible source clocks.
>>> +- clock-names : names of the possible source clocks.
>>> +- interrupts : Should contain the EMC general interrupt.
>>> +- memory-region : phandle to the reserved memory (see
>>> + 
>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reserved-memory/reserved-memory.txt) which
>>>
>>> +  contains a sub-node of EMC table.
>>> +- nvidia,memory-controller : phandle of the memory controller.
>>> +
>>> +Reserved memory node
>>> +====================
>>> +Should contain a sub-node of EMC table with required properties:
>>> +- compatible : should be "nvidia,tegra210-emc-table".
>>> +- reg : physical address and length of the location of EMC table.
>>> +
>>> +Example:
>>> +    reserved-memory {
>>> +        #address-cells = <2>;
>>> +        #size-cells = <2>;
>>> +        ranges;
>>> +
>>> +        emc_table: emc-table@8be00000 {
>>> +            compatible = "nvidia,tegra210-emc-table";
>>> +            reg = <0x0 0x8be00000 0x0 0x10000>;
>>> +            status = "okay";
>>> +        };
>>
>> You essentially moved the v1 binding into obscure and undocumented blob,
>> ignoring previous review comments. This is a very odd move... please
>> explain what is going on.
>>
> 
> Discussed with Thierry offline which way we prefer to pass the EMC table
> to the kernel. Some reasons below we decide to chose this one (via
> binary blob).
> 
> - The EMC table is much bigger than the previous Tegra generations
> (LPDDR4 v.s. LPDDR2/3). It's harder to settle in the review process. And
> if there is a new fix of the table in the future, we'll need to go
> through that again.

I don't think that this a very good excuse for not documenting the
blob's structure.

> - Because it's LPDDR4 we want to support here, to support higher rates,
> the devices have must be gone through the training process, which is
> done in the firmware. Which means We already have the table somewhere in
> the memory and kernel can just re-use that. No need to convert them back
> to DT and pass to the kernel. This is much easier to maintain in the
> future if there is something needs to fix.
> - With the mechanism above, we don't need to maintain the huge EMC table
> in the DT file like below.
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/1063886/
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/1063889/

The blob's EMC table contains stuff specific to downstream kernel, hence
it's a not very re-usable downstream software ABI mixed with HW
description that you're bringing into upstream. This is not very
welcomed, although I don't see it as a big problem if you'll state that
all clearly in the commit message with a solid explanation why it is the
best possible option.

> And sorry, maybe it's not clear at that moment, but I did mention that
> we want to go with the new method (via binary blob) in the previous review.
> Please see http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/1084467/

Okay. It will be better if the discussion happened publicly, at least I
hope that Rob is involved in it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-15 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-10  8:47 [PATCH V3 0/8] Add EMC scaling support for Tegra210 Joseph Lo
2019-05-10  8:47 ` [PATCH V3 1/8] dt-bindings: memory: tegra: Add external memory controller binding " Joseph Lo
2019-05-14 16:28   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-15  7:17     ` Joseph Lo
2019-05-15 13:50       ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
2019-05-16  9:01         ` Joseph Lo
2019-05-16 14:39           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-10  8:47 ` [PATCH V3 2/8] clk: tegra: Add PLLP_UD and PLLMB_UD " Joseph Lo
2019-05-10  8:47 ` [PATCH V3 3/8] clk: tegra: Export functions for EMC clock scaling Joseph Lo
2019-05-14 16:29   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-15  7:25     ` Joseph Lo
2019-05-10  8:47 ` [PATCH V3 4/8] memory: tegra: Add Tegra210 EMC clock driver Joseph Lo
2019-05-13 16:54   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-14  9:22     ` Joseph Lo
2019-05-14 17:04   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-15  8:42     ` Joseph Lo
2019-05-15 15:25       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-16  7:52         ` Joseph Lo
2019-05-16 14:29           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-10  8:47 ` [PATCH V3 5/8] memory: tegra: Add EMC scaling support code for Tegra210 Joseph Lo
2019-05-13 17:02   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-14  8:47     ` Joseph Lo
2019-05-14 16:30   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-15 14:09   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-15 15:26   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-05-10  8:47 ` [PATCH V3 6/8] memory: tegra: Add EMC scaling sequence " Joseph Lo
2019-05-10  8:47 ` [PATCH V3 7/8] clk: tegra: Remove the old emc_mux clock " Joseph Lo
2019-05-10  8:47 ` [PATCH V3 8/8] arm64: tegra: Add external memory controller node " Joseph Lo

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