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From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>,
	Mikko Perttunen
	<mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Cc: dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] gpu: host1x: Enable Tegra186 syncpoint protection
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:11:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed7f2987-062a-fa53-6243-bd81a600e96e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6979443e-ad2b-1da6-f71c-61913242f257-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>

On 19.08.2017 13:35, Mikko Perttunen wrote:
> On 08/19/2017 01:09 PM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> On 19.08.2017 11:10, Mikko Perttunen wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>>> +    host1x_hw_syncpt_set_protection(host, true);
>>>>
>>>> Is it really okay to force the protection? Maybe protection should be enabled
>>>> with a respect to CONFIG_TEGRA_HOST1X_FIREWALL? In that case we would have to
>>>> avoid software jobs validation for Tegra124+.
>>>
>>> I don't quite get your comment. The hardware syncpt protection layer being
>>> enabled should never hurt - it doesn't mess with any valid jobs. It's also only
>>> on Tegra186 so I'm not sure where the Tegra124 comes from.
>>
>> Right, it's the gather filter on T124+, my bad. This raises several questions.
>>
>> 1) Why we have CONFIG_TEGRA_HOST1X_FIREWALL? Should it be always enforced or we
>> actually want to be a bit more flexible and allow to disable it. Imagine that
>> you are making a custom application and want to utilize channels in a
>> different way.
> 
> I think it should be up to the user to decide whether they want the firewall or
> not. It's clearly the most useful on the older chips - especially Tegra20 due to
> lack of IOMMU. The performance penalty is too great to force it on always.
> 

Of course there is some overhead but is not that great. Usually command buffer
contains just a dozen of commands. It should be an interesting challenge to
optimize its performance though.

> The programming model should always be considered the same - the rules of what
> you are allowed to do are the same whether the firewall, or any
> hardware-implemented protection features, are on or not.
> 

Well, okay.

>>
>> 2) Since syncpoint protection is a T186 feature, what about previous
>> generations? Should we validate syncpoints in software for them? We have
>> 'syncpoint validation' patch staged in grate's kernel
>> https://github.com/grate-driver/linux/commit/c8b6c82173f2ee9fead23380e8330b8099e7d5e7
>>
>> (I'll start sending out this and other patches after a bit more thorough
>> testing.) Improperly used syncpoints potentially could allow one program to
>> damage others.
> 
> Yes, I think the firewall should have this feature for older generations. We
> could disable the check on Tegra186, as you point towards in question 4.
> 
>>
>> 3) What exactly does gather filter? Could you list all the commands that it
>> filters out, please?
> 
> According to the Tegra186 TRM (section 16.8.32), SETCLASS, SETSTRMID and EXTEND
> are filtered.
> 

Okay, then what about SETSTRMID command, I don't see its disassembly in the
host1x gather debug dump. Is it accidentally missed?

>>
>> 4) What about T30/T114 that do not have gather filter? Should we validate those
>> commands for them in a software firewall?
> 
> Yes, the firewall should validate that.
> 
>>
>> So maybe we should implement several layers of validation in the SW firewall.
>> Like all layers for T20 (memory boundaries validation etc), software gather
>> filter for T30/114 and software syncpoint validation for T30/114/124/210.
>>
> 
> That seems like a good idea.

Alright, factoring out firewall from job.c probably should be the first step.

-- 
Dmitry

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-19 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-18 16:15 [PATCH 0/4] Miscellaneous improvements to Host1x and TegraDRM Mikko Perttunen
2017-08-18 16:15 ` [PATCH 1/4] gpu: host1x: Enable Tegra186 syncpoint protection Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <20170818161553.27597-2-mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18 22:36     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]       ` <d6d10aec-3d2a-99b3-a23d-41147478f412-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19  8:10         ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]           ` <5ff98485-e8ac-75e0-ca8f-3887f8593ec4-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19 10:09             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-19 10:35               ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]                 ` <6979443e-ad2b-1da6-f71c-61913242f257-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19 11:11                   ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <ed7f2987-062a-fa53-6243-bd81a600e96e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19 11:32                       ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]                         ` <72fc513b-2626-fd86-1b98-5d2f8e89dc5f-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19 11:51                           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-19 12:02     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-20 16:18     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-20 16:59     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-20 18:13     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-18 16:15 ` [PATCH 2/4] gpu: host1x: Enable gather filter Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <20170818161553.27597-3-mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19 10:42     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]       ` <ae084d08-89d0-ced0-c040-78500aa8e5d5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19 10:46         ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]           ` <64de3b3b-7c9e-54e9-49f4-d89b3d2c5f21-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19 12:05             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-20 16:24     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]       ` <78e11be6-1e4f-18e0-cdc0-13db4bf57bf6-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-20 16:44         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-20 16:59           ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]             ` <f42a2854-d70c-ef40-7d45-ec14f581c337-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-21 17:27               ` Mikko Perttunen
2017-08-21 17:28                 ` Mikko Perttunen
2017-08-18 16:15 ` [PATCH 3/4] gpu: host1x: Improve debug disassembly formatting Mikko Perttunen
2017-08-18 21:54   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2017-08-18 16:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/tegra: Use u64_to_user_ptr helper Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <20170818161553.27597-5-mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18 22:05     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]       ` <f16347d6-991e-4d61-eb55-cca24bcf5625-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19  8:06         ` Mikko Perttunen

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