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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
	GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au
Subject: Re: typeof and operands in named address spaces
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 13:38:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201109193851.GI2672@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201109124713.GP2594@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 01:47:13PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> + lots of people and linux-toolchains
> 
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 07:31:42PM +0100, Uros Bizjak wrote:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > I was looking at the recent linux patch series [1] where segment
> > qualifiers (named address spaces) were introduced to handle percpu
> > variables. In the patch [2], the author mentions that:
> > 
> > --q--
> > Unfortunately, gcc does not provide a way to remove segment
> > qualifiers, which is needed to use typeof() to create local instances
> > of the per-cpu variable. For this reason, do not use the segment
> > qualifier for per-cpu variables, and do casting using the segment
> > qualifier instead.
> > --/q--
> 
> C in general does not provide means to strip qualifiers.

Most ways you can try to use the result are undefined behaviour, even.

> We recently had
> a _lot_ of 'fun' trying to strip volatile from a type, see here:
> 
>   https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/875zimp0ay.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au
> 
> which resulted in the current __unqual_scalar_typeof() hack.
> 
> If we're going to do compiler extentions here, can we pretty please have
> a sane means of modifying qualifiers in general?

What do you want to do with it?  It may be more feasible to do a
compiler extension for *that*.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-09 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAFULd4aOca3k-AZ+ocMBqDRpH_kNisBQwfK0F4Jf7znsPxsrBw@mail.gmail.com>
2020-11-09 12:47 ` typeof and operands in named address spaces Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-09 19:38   ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2020-11-09 19:50     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-11-10  7:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-10 18:42         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-11-10 20:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-12  0:40             ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-05-29  6:29           ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-12  0:47         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-11-10  7:52     ` Peter Zijlstra

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