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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Menglong Dong <menglong8.dong@gmail.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	kuba@kernel.org, miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com,
	ojeda@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, asml.silence@gmail.com, imagedong@tencent.com,
	luiz.von.dentz@intel.com, vasily.averin@linux.dev,
	jk@codeconstruct.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	linux-toolchains <linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4] net: skb: prevent the split of kfree_skb_reason() by gcc
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2022 10:30:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220906153046.GD25951@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edwo65lw.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 06, 2022 at 02:37:47PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 4:01 PM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I did some research on the 'sibcalls' you mentioned above. Feel like
> > It's a little similar to 'inline', and makes the callee use the same stack
> > frame with the caller, which obviously will influence the result of
> > '__builtin_return_address'.

Sibling calls are essentially calls that can be replaced by jumps (aka
"tail call"), without needing a separate entry point to the callee.

Different targets can have a slightly different implementation and
definition of what exactly is a sibling call, but that's the gist.

> > Hmm......but I'm not able to find any attribute to disable this optimization.
> > Do you have any ideas?
> 
> Unless something changed quite recently, GCC does not allow disabling
> the optimization with a simple attribute (which would have to apply to
> function pointers as well, not functions).

It isn't specified what a sibling call exactly *is*, certainly not on C
level (only in the generated machine code), and the details differs per
target.

> asm ("") barriers that move
> out a call out of the tail position are supposed to prevent the
> optimization.

Not just "supposed": they work 100%.  The asm has to stay after the
function call by the fundamental rules of C (the function call having a
sequence point, and the asm a side effect).


void g(void);
void f(void)
{
	g();		// This can not be optimised to a jump...
	asm("");	// ... because it has to stay before this.
}


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-06 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220816032846.2579217-1-imagedong@tencent.com>
2022-08-17 15:54 ` [PATCH net-next v4] net: skb: prevent the split of kfree_skb_reason() by gcc Nick Desaulniers
2022-08-18 16:31   ` Menglong Dong
2022-08-18 16:58     ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-08-19 14:55       ` Menglong Dong
2022-08-19 15:21         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-08-20 11:00           ` Menglong Dong
2022-08-22  8:01             ` Florian Weimer
2022-08-23 16:23               ` Menglong Dong
2022-09-06 12:37                 ` Florian Weimer
2022-09-06 15:30                   ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2022-09-07 18:59                     ` Florian Weimer
2022-09-07 19:47                       ` Segher Boessenkool

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