From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Puchert, Aaron" <aaron.puchert@sap.com>
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
Aaron Ballman <aaron@aaronballman.com>,
"linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org>,
"llvm@lists.linux.dev" <llvm@lists.linux.dev>,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Thread Safety Analysis and the Linux kernel
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 08:59:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250307075950.GH16878@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB7PR02MB36269DCE8C78D8E5DB7C7AC6E7CA2@DB7PR02MB3626.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 10:18:32PM +0000, Puchert, Aaron wrote:
> > Users would typically look like:
> >
> > try_to_wake_up(p, state)
> > {
> > struct rq *rq;
> >
> > scoped_guard (raw_spinlock_irqsave, &p->pi_lock) {
> > if (!ttwu_state_match(p, state))
> > break;
> >
> > rq = __task_rq_lock(p);
> > // go enqueue task
> > raw_spin_rq_unlock(rq);
> > }
> > }
>
> Can the return value be used as an initializer by moving the
> declaration into the scoped_guard block? Or do you have a style guide
> that wants all declarations at the beginning of a block?
Yeah, we have a style guide that strongly suggests variables are
declared at the start. In fact, we used to have
-Wdeclaration-after-statement and only (finally) got rid of it in order
to allow for these scope guards.
> We track capabilities as symbolic expressions, so something like
> "rq->__lock" in this case. If there is an assignment to "rq", that
> changes the meaning of the symbolic expression. The object referred to
> by the expression is then no longer reachable. Currently we don't look
> at assignments at all when it comes to tracking capabilities. We don't
> even warn, it's simply documented as not being supported. We only look
> at initializers, as in alias analysis. Having a separate variable
> being initialized with the return value gives us a unique name for the
> return value, which is good when we're working with symbolic
> expressions.
>
> If there are cases where assignment is really needed, we can also
> check to which extent we can rewrite expressions or warn when the
> objects they point to become unreachable. (In the example that would
> be the case if someone assigned to "rq" again after the call to
> "__task_rq_lock ".)
Right. I suspect we might need this if we want to minimize code churn.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-07 8:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-05 11:47 Thread Safety Analysis and the Linux kernel Marco Elver
2025-03-05 23:54 ` Puchert, Aaron
2025-03-06 9:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-06 16:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-03-07 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-07 21:50 ` Puchert, Aaron
2025-03-07 21:46 ` Puchert, Aaron
2025-03-06 10:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-06 22:18 ` Puchert, Aaron
2025-03-07 7:59 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-03-07 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-06 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-06 23:14 ` Puchert, Aaron
2025-03-07 8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-07 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-07 14:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-03-07 14:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-08 6:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-03-07 23:03 ` Puchert, Aaron
2025-03-06 17:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-06 23:24 ` Puchert, Aaron
2025-03-06 23:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-07 17:59 ` Puchert, Aaron
2025-03-07 18:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-07 12:00 ` Marco Elver
2025-05-05 13:44 ` Marco Elver
2025-06-05 12:44 ` Marco Elver
2025-09-18 10:37 ` Marco Elver
2025-09-18 11:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
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