From: Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Fangrui Song <maskray@sourceware.org>
Cc: Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
Rainer Orth <ro@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de>,
"linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org>,
Sterling Augustine <saugustine@google.com>,
Pavel Labath <labath@google.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
Serhei Makarov <smakarov@redhat.com>,
Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Unaligned access trade-offs for SFrame FRE layout
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 12:39:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7549e3bb-a956-4706-8735-415df61ea1a1@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250916115801.622c629b@batman.local.home>
On 9/16/2025 5:58 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 23:05:09 -0700
> Fangrui Song <maskray@sourceware.org> wrote:
>
>> From a linker and binary utilities perspective, I'd even suggest
>> adopting a universal little-endian format regardless of the target
>> system's native endianness.
>> This would eliminate the need for endianness templates in the C++ code
>> and simplify toolchain implementation across platforms.
>>
>> On the big-endian z/Architecture, this is efficient: the LOAD REVERSED
>> instructions are used by the bswap versions in the following program,
>> not even requiring extra instructions.
>> #define WIDTH(x) \
>> typedef __UINT##x##_TYPE__ [[gnu::aligned(1)]] uint##x; \
>> uint##x load_inc##x(uint##x *p) { return *p+1; } \
>> uint##x load_bswap_inc##x(uint##x *p) { return __builtin_bswap##x(*p)+1; }; \
>> uint##x load_eq##x(uint##x *p) { return *p==3; } \
>> uint##x load_bswap_eq##x(uint##x *p) { return __builtin_bswap##x(*p)==3; }; \
>>
>> WIDTH(16);
>> WIDTH(32);
>> WIDTH(64);
>
> I would like to hear the comments from Jens on this, as he's adapting
> SFrames for the s390 which I believe is big-endian.
This would allow for endianness bugs for the native case only on s390
(and other big-endian architectures).
Load Reversed takes longer than a normal Load, as it obviously needs to
reverse the register contents.
Regards,
Jens
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-18 10:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-12 17:34 Unaligned access trade-offs for SFrame FRE layout Indu Bhagat
2025-09-12 18:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-09-12 19:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-13 7:56 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-15 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <CAEG7qUxk_cZYv3X_VM6+ZGaVFAD-7jdPd3xA92xYHUAqyzb2Xw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-09-13 8:01 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-14 14:14 ` Jan Beulich
2025-09-14 14:39 ` Rainer Orth
2025-09-14 15:23 ` Jan Beulich
2025-09-14 16:18 ` Rainer Orth
2025-09-14 18:10 ` Jan Beulich
2025-09-15 5:42 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-15 16:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-15 17:22 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-09-16 6:05 ` Fangrui Song
2025-09-16 15:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-18 10:39 ` Jens Remus [this message]
2025-09-16 16:03 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-16 16:32 ` Fangrui Song
2025-09-16 16:44 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-09-16 17:05 ` Fangrui Song
2025-09-16 17:54 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-09-16 17:33 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-17 21:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-17 23:55 ` Alan Modra
2025-09-15 9:08 ` Segher Boessenkool
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