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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>
Cc: paulmck@kernel.org,  linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Do we care if C compilers start allowing "." on pointers?
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 20:57:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frln6c0m.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGG=3QWKVpoZAh_yD=15pkbRUVSeAmt5DJ94hKfxJ5HfTqV=Rg@mail.gmail.com> (Bill Wendling's message of "Fri, 10 Jan 2025 17:09:21 -0800")

* Bill Wendling:

> On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 7:02 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Currently, given a pointer "p", C allows p->a but not p.a.  There is a
>> proposal from C++ [1] that is being considered for C.
>>
>> Do we care?
>>
> Does the proposal seem likely to be added to C++? The motivation is
> very weak, in my opinion. Other languages are very different from
> C/C++; they try to hide away memory management details, which are a
> major part of C languages. (To prevent a holy war, my comments aren't
> about the benefits and drawbacks of memory management in other
> languages.)

User-defined pointer-like types obviously have to use -> for the
deference operation because . is reserved for operations on the pointer
object itself.  So certain templated code would have to remember to use
-> anyway.  So it's surprising this proposed in the C++ context.

For C as of today, this wouldn't matter.  However, if we ever get
bounds-carrying pointers, writing p.length or p.limit to access such
information with the pointer p would make sense.

Thanks,
Florian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-12 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-10 15:02 Do we care if C compilers start allowing "." on pointers? Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-11  1:09 ` Bill Wendling
2025-01-11  5:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-11  7:55   ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-01-12 19:57   ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2025-01-13 22:01     ` Bill Wendling
2025-01-11 17:12 ` David Malcolm
2025-01-12 17:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-13 23:50   ` Jason Merrill
2025-01-14 18:47     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-13 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-14 18:48   ` Paul E. McKenney

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