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From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ojeda@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	will@kernel.org, longman@redhat.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com,
	vschneid@redhat.com, paulmck@kernel.org, frederic@kernel.org,
	quic_neeraju@quicinc.com, joel@joelfernandes.org,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org, tj@kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Lock and Pointer guards
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 13:14:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKwvOd=MurF6DQHzRTai15h67FEpd_4R-gz_iFejzLsL=dw3dA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230608185142.GA1019250@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 11:51 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 10:20:19AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> > Presumably, one could simply just not use RAII when working with a value that conditionally
> > "escapes" the local scope.
>
> But then you're back to the error goto :/

Thinking more about the expected ergonomics here over lunch...no
meaningful insights, just thoughts...

For something like a mutex/lock; I'd expect those to be acquired then
released within the same function, yeah? In which case
__attribute__((cleanup())) has fewer hazards since the resource
doesn't escape.

For a pointer to a dynamically allocated region that may get returned
to the caller...

I mean, people do this in C++. It is safe and canonical to return a
std::unique_ptr.  When created locally the destructor does the
expected thing regardless of control flow.  IIUC, std::unique_ptr's
move constructor basically does what Kees suggested earlier (trigger
warning: C++): https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/7a52f79126a59717012d8039ef875f68e3c637fd/libcxx/include/__memory/unique_ptr.h#L429-L430.
example: https://godbolt.org/z/51s49G9f1

A recent commit to clang https://reviews.llvm.org/rG301eb6b68f30
raised an interesting point (deficiency is perhaps too strong a word)
about GNU-style attributes; they generally have no meaning on an ABI.

Consider a function that returns a locally constructed
std::unique_ptr.  If the function returns a type where the caller
knows what destructor functions to run.  This is part of the ABI.

Here, we're talking about using __attribute__((cleanup())) to DTR
locally, but then we return a "raw" pointer to a caller. What cleanup
function should the caller run, implicitly, if at all?  If we use
__attribute__((cleanup())) that saves us a few gotos locally, but the
caller perhaps now needs the same treatment.
-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-08 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <CAHk-=wg2RHZKTN29Gr7MhgYfaNtzz58wry9jCNP75LAmQ9t8-A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20230530092342.GA149947@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
2023-06-06  9:42     ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Lock and Pointer guards Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 13:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-06 13:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 14:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-06 16:06             ` Kees Cook
2023-06-06 18:08             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 23:22               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-07  9:41                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-08  8:52                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-08  9:04                     ` Greg KH
2023-06-08 15:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-08 16:47                       ` Kees Cook
2023-06-08 16:59                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-08 17:20                         ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-06-08 18:51                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-08 20:14                             ` Nick Desaulniers [this message]
2023-06-09 10:20                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-08 20:06                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-09  2:25                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-09  8:14                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-09 21:18                           ` Kees Cook
2023-06-09  8:27                       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2023-06-06 15:31       ` Kees Cook
2023-06-06 15:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-06 16:08           ` Kees Cook
2023-06-08 16:25           ` David Laight

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