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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
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	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
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	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
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	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Weinan Liu <wnliu@google.com>,
	Blake Jones <blakejones@google.com>,
	Beau Belgrave <beaub@linux.microsoft.com>,
	"Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 13/17] perf: Support deferred user callchains
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 08:45:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aB4jKjLsXCzcH4yd@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8889c16b-9c3d-4ab3-b353-e00146532174@efficios.com>

Hi Mathieu,

On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 08:23:49AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2025-05-08 14:54, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 May 2025 14:49:59 -0400
> > Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > AFAIR, the cookie method generates the cookie by combining the cpu
> > > number with a per-cpu count.
> > > 
> > > This ensures that there are not two cookies emitted at the same time
> > > from two CPUs that have the same value by accident.
> > > 
> > > How would the timestamp method prevent this ?
> > 
> > Do we care? It only needs to be unique per pid doesn't it?
> 
> Is it possible to have many threads writing into the same
> ring buffer in that scenario ? Are all event records stamped
> with their associated PID ? As long as we have enough information
> to know which thread was associated with the timestamp cookie
> on both ends (request for callchain and saving the user callchain
> on return to userspace), we should be OK.

Yep, basically perf sets PERF_SAMPLE_TID (and sample_id_all) which makes
every records come with PID/TID.. 

Thanks,
Namhyung

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-09 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-24 16:25 [PATCH v5 00/17] perf: Deferred unwinding of user space stack traces Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] unwind_user: Add user space unwinding API Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] unwind_user: Add frame pointer support Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] unwind_user/x86: Enable frame pointer unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] perf/x86: Rename and move get_segment_base() and make it global Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] unwind_user: Add compat mode frame pointer support Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] unwind_user/x86: Enable compat mode frame pointer unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind_deferred_trace() Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind cache Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 19:00   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] perf: Remove get_perf_callchain() init_nr argument Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] perf: Have get_perf_callchain() return NULL if crosstask and user are set Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] perf: Simplify get_perf_callchain() user logic Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-24 17:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 17:42       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-04-24 17:47         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-25  7:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] perf: Skip user unwind if !current->mm Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-24 17:01     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] perf: Support deferred user callchains Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-24 17:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-25 15:24   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-04-25 16:58     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-28 20:42       ` Namhyung Kim
2025-04-28 22:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-29  0:29           ` Namhyung Kim
2025-04-29 14:00             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-05-08 16:03   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-05-08 18:44     ` Namhyung Kim
2025-05-08 18:49     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-05-08 18:54       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-05-09 12:23         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-05-09 15:45           ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2025-05-09 15:55             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] perf tools: Minimal CALLCHAIN_DEFERRED support Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] perf record: Enable defer_callchain for user callchains Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] perf script: Display PERF_RECORD_CALLCHAIN_DEFERRED Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 16:25 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] perf tools: Merge deferred user callchains Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 17:04 ` [PATCH v5 00/17] perf: Deferred unwinding of user space stack traces Steven Rostedt
2025-04-24 18:32   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-04-24 18:41     ` Steven Rostedt

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