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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Rainer Orth <ro@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de>,
	"linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>,
	Sterling Augustine <saugustine@google.com>,
	Pavel Labath <labath@google.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Serhei Makarov <smakarov@redhat.com>,
	Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Unaligned access trade-offs for SFrame FRE layout
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 12:22:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMhLQ8EgRba8B_XY@gate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250915120742.7ff2f781@gandalf.local.home>

On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 12:07:42PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 22:42:46 -0700
> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> > In such cases, the routines reading the SFrame data under consideration 
> > here (SFrame FRE start addr, and SFrame FRE stack offsets) from memory 
> > will need to use a memcpy to copy out the data to an aligned location.
> > 
> > In GNU Binutils libsframe (used by ld), we do the above. Such a "SFrame 
> > FRE decoding" routine could be provided in a arch-specific manner in 
> > SFrame stack tracers.
> 
> I'm perfectly fine with making it a requirement for the reader of the
> SFrame section having to use memcpy into an aligned structure for reading
> if the architecture requires it. Let only the architectures that have
> issues with unaligned access take the performance hit.

Constructing the bigger value from a whole bunch of byte reads should be
pretty optimal, too.  Just don't force misaligned bigger reads, not even
on platforms where that *does* work (not all!), it might well be really,
really slow.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-15 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-12 17:34 Unaligned access trade-offs for SFrame FRE layout Indu Bhagat
2025-09-12 18:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-09-12 19:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-13  7:56   ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-15 16:04     ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]   ` <CAEG7qUxk_cZYv3X_VM6+ZGaVFAD-7jdPd3xA92xYHUAqyzb2Xw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-09-13  8:01     ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-14 14:14 ` Jan Beulich
2025-09-14 14:39   ` Rainer Orth
2025-09-14 15:23     ` Jan Beulich
2025-09-14 16:18       ` Rainer Orth
2025-09-14 18:10         ` Jan Beulich
2025-09-15  5:42           ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-15 16:07             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-15 17:22               ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2025-09-16  6:05               ` Fangrui Song
2025-09-16 15:58                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-18 10:39                   ` Jens Remus
2025-09-16 16:03                 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-16 16:32                   ` Fangrui Song
2025-09-16 16:44                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-09-16 17:05                       ` Fangrui Song
2025-09-16 17:54                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-09-16 17:33                     ` Indu Bhagat
2025-09-17 21:12                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-17 23:55                   ` Alan Modra
2025-09-15  9:08       ` Segher Boessenkool

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