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From: Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>
To: Puranjay Mohan <puranjay@kernel.org>, Weinan Liu <wnliu@google.com>
Cc: irogers@google.com, joe.lawrence@redhat.com, jpoimboe@kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, will@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] unwind, arm64: add sframe unwinder for kernel
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 07:43:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed1bf8ce-6685-48d0-bf48-7db943fc8c13@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9debc20e-1460-4400-a9ca-50b407948976@oracle.com>

On 2/27/25 10:47 PM, Indu Bhagat wrote:
> On 2/27/25 1:38 AM, Puranjay Mohan wrote:
>> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 2/26/25 2:23 AM, Puranjay Mohan wrote:
>>>> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/25/25 3:54 PM, Weinan Liu wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 11:38 AM Indu Bhagat 
>>>>>> <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 12:30 AM Weinan Liu <wnliu@google.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I already have a WIP patch to add sframe support to the kernel 
>>>>>>>>> module.
>>>>>>>>> However, it is not yet working. I had trouble unwinding frames 
>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>> kernel module using the current algorithm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Indu has likely identified the issue and will be addressing it 
>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>> toolchain side.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32666
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a working in progress patch that adds sframe support for 
>>>>>>>> kernel
>>>>>>>> module.
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/heuza/linux/tree/sframe_unwinder.rfc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to the sframe table values I got during runtime 
>>>>>>>> testing, looks
>>>>>>>> like the offsets are not correct .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope to sanitize the fix for 32666 and post upstream soon (I 
>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>> address other related issues).  Unless fixed, relocating .sframe
>>>>>>> sections using the .rela.sframe is expected to generate incorrect 
>>>>>>> output.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When unwind symbols init_module(0xffff80007b155048) from the kernel
>>>>>>>> module(livepatch-sample.ko), the start_address of the FDE 
>>>>>>>> entries in the
>>>>>>>> sframe table of the kernel modules appear incorrect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> init_module will apply the relocations on the .sframe section, 
>>>>>>> isnt it ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For instance, the first FDE's start_addr is reported as -20564. 
>>>>>>>> Adding
>>>>>>>> this offset to the module's sframe section address 
>>>>>>>> (0xffff80007b15a040)
>>>>>>>> yields 0xffff80007b154fec, which is not within the livepatch- 
>>>>>>>> sample.ko
>>>>>>>> memory region(It should be larger than 0xffff80007b155000).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm..something seems off here.  Having tested a potential fix for 
>>>>>>> 32666
>>>>>>> locally, I do not expect the first FDE to show this symptom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for not responding in the past few days.  I was on PTO and was
>>>> trying to improve my snowboarding technique, I am back now!!
>>>>
>>>> I think what we are seeing is expected behaviour:
>>>>
>>>>    | For instance, the first FDE's start_addr is reported as -20564. 
>>>> Adding
>>>>    | this offset to the module's sframe section address 
>>>> (0xffff80007b15a040)
>>>>    | yields 0xffff80007b154fec, which is not within the livepatch- 
>>>> sample.ko
>>>>    | memory region(It should be larger than 0xffff80007b155000).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let me explain using a __dummy__ example.
>>>>
>>>> Assume Memory layout before relocation:
>>>>
>>>>    | Address | Element                                 | Relocation
>>>>    |  ....   | ....                                    |
>>>>    |   60    | init_module (start address)             |
>>>>    |   72    | init_module (end address)               |
>>>>    |  ....   | .....                                   |
>>>>    |   100   | Sframe section header start address     |
>>>>    |   128   | First FDE's start address               | 
>>>> RELOC_OP_PREL -> Put init_module address (60) - current address (128)
>>>>
>>>> So, after relocation First FDE's start address has value 60 - 128 = -68
>>>>
>>>
>>> For SFrame FDE function start address is :
>>>
>>> "Signed 32-bit integral field denoting the virtual memory address of the
>>> described function, for which the SFrame FDE applies.  The value encoded
>>> in the ‘sfde_func_start_address’ field is the offset in bytes of the
>>> function’s start address, from the SFrame section."
>>>
>>> So, in your case, after applying the relocations, you will get:
>>> S + A - P = 60 - 128 = -68
>>>
>>> This is the distance of the function start address (60) from the current
>>> location in SFrame section (128)
>>>
>>> But what we intend to store is the distance of the function start
>>> address from the start of the SFrame section.  So we need to do an
>>> additional step for SFrame FDE:  Value += r_offset
>>
>> Thanks for the explaination, now it makes sense.
>>
>> But I couldn't find a relocation type in AARCH64 that does this extra +=
>> r_offset along with PREL32.
>>
>> The kernel's module loader is only doing the R_AARCH64_PREL32 which is
>> why we see this issue.
>>
>> How is this working even for the kernel itself? or for that matter, any
>> other binary compiled with sframe?
>>
> 
> For the usual executables or shared objects, the calculations are 
> applied by ld.bfd at this time.  Hence, the issue manifests in 
> relocatable files.
> 
>>  From my limited undestanding, the way to fix this would be to hack the
>> relocator to do this additional step while relocating .sframe sections.
>> Or the 'addend' values in .rela.sframe should already have the +r_offset
>> added to it, then no change to the relocator would be needed.
>>
> 
> Of the two, adjusting the addend values in .rela.sframe may be a 
> reasonable way to go about it.  Let me try it out in GAS and ld.bfd.
> 

A fix for this is in the works (being discussed on the 
binutils@sourceware list).  I will keep you posted.

Thanks
Indu

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-09 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-27 21:33 [PATCH 0/8] unwind, arm64: add sframe unwinder for kernel Weinan Liu
2025-01-27 21:33 ` [PATCH 1/8] unwind: build kernel with sframe info Weinan Liu
2025-01-30  9:45   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-02-05  0:22   ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-07 18:01     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-27 21:33 ` [PATCH 2/8] arm64: entry: add unwind info for various kernel entries Weinan Liu
2025-01-27 21:33 ` [PATCH 3/8] unwind: add sframe v2 header Weinan Liu
2025-01-30  9:53   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-02-07 18:05   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-27 21:33 ` [PATCH 4/8] unwind: Implement generic sframe unwinder library Weinan Liu
2025-01-30 10:22   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-30 10:29     ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-02-02  6:27     ` Weinan Liu
2025-02-02  6:37       ` Weinan Liu
2025-01-27 21:33 ` [PATCH 5/8] unwind: arm64: Add sframe unwinder on arm64 Weinan Liu
2025-01-30 10:34   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-27 21:33 ` [PATCH 6/8] unwind: arm64: add reliable stacktrace support for arm64 Weinan Liu
2025-01-30 10:36   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-27 21:33 ` [PATCH 7/8] arm64: Define TIF_PATCH_PENDING for livepatch Weinan Liu
2025-01-30  9:54   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-02-27 12:10   ` Miroslav Benes
2025-01-27 21:33 ` [PATCH 8/8] arm64: Enable livepatch for ARM64 Weinan Liu
2025-01-30  9:55   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-31 16:08   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-02-03 15:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-28 15:35 ` [PATCH 0/8] unwind, arm64: add sframe unwinder for kernel Indu Bhagat
2025-01-29  7:23   ` Weinan Liu
2025-01-30 17:59 ` Song Liu
2025-01-30 18:34   ` Song Liu
2025-01-30 19:01     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-01-30 19:18       ` Song Liu
2025-02-04 14:49 ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-04 23:52   ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-06 15:02     ` Weinan Liu
2025-02-07 12:16       ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-07 17:52         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-10  8:30         ` Weinan Liu
2025-02-25  1:02           ` Weinan Liu
2025-02-25 18:13             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-25 23:01               ` Weinan Liu
2025-02-25 19:38             ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-25 23:54               ` Weinan Liu
2025-02-26  0:22                 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-26 10:23                   ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-26 17:40                     ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-27  9:38                       ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-28  6:47                         ` Indu Bhagat
2025-03-09 14:43                           ` Indu Bhagat [this message]
2025-02-12 23:32 ` Song Liu
2025-02-12 23:49   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-13  2:36     ` Song Liu
2025-02-13  2:45       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-13  7:25         ` Song Liu
2025-02-13  7:46           ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-13 19:40             ` Song Liu
2025-02-14  8:08               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-14 17:51                 ` Song Liu
2025-02-14 19:34                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-14 22:04                     ` Song Liu
2025-02-14 22:33                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-14 23:23                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-18  4:38                         ` Song Liu
2025-02-18  6:37                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-18 18:20                             ` Song Liu
2025-02-18 18:40                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-19 17:44                                 ` Song Liu
2025-02-20  4:50                                   ` Song Liu
2025-02-20 18:22                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]                                       ` <CAPhsuW53DK2vFH-BZeUYN-eythX3NQEbcxrYf6jvBDtDmctRgw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-02-25  0:13                                         ` Song Liu
2025-02-13 23:22           ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-13 23:47             ` Song Liu
2025-02-14  7:57             ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-14 17:39               ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-14 18:41                 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-14 18:58                   ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-14 19:38                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-14 19:42                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-13  0:09   ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-13  2:40     ` Song Liu
2025-02-13  2:52       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-13  7:26       ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-13  7:37         ` Song Liu
2025-02-13  7:53           ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-13 19:42             ` Song Liu
2025-02-13  8:37           ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-13 20:46             ` Song Liu
2025-02-13 22:21               ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-13 23:34                 ` Song Liu
2025-02-14  1:58                 ` Song Liu
2025-02-14  8:56                   ` Puranjay Mohan
2025-02-14 18:10                     ` Song Liu
2025-02-14 18:24                     ` Josh Poimboeuf

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