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From: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@linux-watchdog.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Gabriele Paoloni <gpaoloni@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	Tao Zhou <tao.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 04/16] rv/include: Add deterministic automata monitor definition via C macros
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 18:38:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26c5c095-2aff-3c7b-80ad-7b21702a3fdd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220721095924.151c6f5d@gandalf.local.home>

On 7/21/22 15:59, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 14:08:38 +0200
> Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/20/22 22:06, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>>>> +/*												\
>>>> + * da_monitor_enabled_##name - checks if the monitor is enabled					\
>>>> + */												\
>>>> +static inline bool da_monitor_enabled_##name(void)						\
>>>> +{												\  
>>> Should we add a:
>>>
>>> 	smp_rmb();
>>>
>>> here? And then a smp_wmb() where these switches get updated?
>>>  
>>
>> Makes sense.
>>
>> Should I also add the READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE? like
>>
>> smp_rmb()
>> READ_ONCE(var)
>>
>> WRITE_ONCE(var, value)
>> smp_wmb()
> 
> I'm not sure the WRITE_ONCE() is necessary with the memory barriers.
> Because they should also prevent gcc from doing anything after that
> barrier. As Linus once stated, most cases WRITE_ONCE() is useless, but it's
> fine to keep more for annotation (as to pair with the READ_ONCE()) than for
> anything that is critical.

Ack, I can keep for annotation.

>>
>> for all these on/off knobs, or just the barriers?
>>
>>> I guess how critical is it that these turn off immediately after the switch
>>> is flipped?  
>>
>> It is not critical to continue the execution of those that have already crossed by
>> the variable. Still, waiting for the tracepoints to finish their execution before
>> returning to the user-space task that disabled the variable might be a good thing.
> 
> You mean after disabling, to wait for the tracepoints that are currently
> running to end?

yes, after disabling tracepoints.

>>
>> IIRC, we can do that via RCU... like, synchronize_rcu()?
> 
> We have tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() that does that, as some
> traceponits use SRCU and not RCU.

yep, that is it!
 
-- Daniel

> -- Steve
> 
> 
>>
>>>> +	/* global switch */									\
>>>> +	if (unlikely(!rv_monitoring_on()))							\
>>>> +		return 0;									\
>>>> +												\
>>>> +	/* monitor enabled */									\
>>>> +	if (unlikely(!rv_##name.enabled))							\
>>>> +		return 0;									\
>>>> +												\
>>>> +	return 1;										\
>>>> +}												\
>>>> +												\  
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-21 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19 17:27 [PATCH V6 00/16] The Runtime Verification (RV) interface Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 01/16] rv: Add " Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-20 14:47   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 15:20     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-20 15:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 15:33     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-21 14:38   ` Tao Zhou
2022-07-21 14:54     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 02/16] rv: Add runtime reactors interface Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-20 16:41   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 16:50     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-20 17:02       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 17:37         ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-20 17:45           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-21 14:46   ` Tao Zhou
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 03/16] rv/include: Add helper functions for deterministic automata Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 04/16] rv/include: Add deterministic automata monitor definition via C macros Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-20 20:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-21 12:08     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-21 13:59       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-21 16:38         ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira [this message]
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 05/16] rv/include: Add instrumentation helper functions Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 06/16] Documentation/rv: Add a basic documentation Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 07/16] tools/rv: Add dot2c Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 08/16] Documentation/rv: Add deterministic automaton documentation Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 09/16] tools/rv: Add dot2k Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 10/16] Documentation/rv: Add deterministic automata monitor synthesis documentation Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 11/16] Documentation/rv: Add deterministic automata instrumentation documentation Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-21 14:57   ` Tao Zhou
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 12/16] rv/monitor: Add the wip monitor skeleton created by dot2k Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 13/16] rv/monitor: Add the wip monitor Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 14/16] rv/monitor: Add the wwnr monitor Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-24 18:12   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 15/16] rv/reactor: Add the printk reactor Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-21 15:29   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-19 17:27 ` [PATCH V6 16/16] rv/reactor: Add the panic reactor Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-07-21 15:31   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-21 16:43     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira

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