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From: Douglas Raillard <douglas.raillard@arm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-trace-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Takaya Saeki <takayas@google.com>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	aahringo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] libtraceevent: Add man page for the new BTF functions
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2025 14:19:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a5b1cb7-8341-474c-b973-a624f5d0c791@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250804083236.7d7099b6@gandalf.local.home>

On 04-08-2025 13:32, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 12:09:09 +0100
> Douglas Raillard <douglas.raillard@arm.com> wrote:
> 
>>> +The *tep_btf_print_args()* takes a _tep_ handle, a trace_seq _s_ pointer
>>> +(that was initialized by *trace_seq_init(3)*), an _args_ array that holds either
>>> +4 byte or 8 byte values, the _nmem_ that is the number of values in the _args_
>>> +parameter, a _size_ that is either 4 or 8 to denote the size of each value in _args_,
>>> +and a _func_ string that is the name of the function to find the BTF information
>>> +to use for parsing. If BTF is not loaded or the _func_ name is not found it
>>> +will just print a hex value of all the _args_ into the _s_ descriptor.
>>
>> For clarity, it may be best to not call those things "args", as they may well not be args.
>> Before BTF is used to decode, this is merely the values of a bunch of registers assumed to
>> hold arguments value, with an unknown mapping of register value to actual args. For example,
>> both square() and square_struct() map the exact same assembly on arm64, clang 20 (tested with godbolt):
>>
> 
> I can update the description but I still want to keep "args" as they are
> the arg elements that were recorded from the function tracer.
> 
> They may not be registers, even though they are now. For instance, on i386,
> only the first three word size arguments are in registers. The rest comes
> from the stack.
> 
> But I agree that the description should point out that the _args_ are the
> function argument elements that were passed to the function call and are
> used to build the function parameters that the program may see.
> 
>>
>> If "int" is used instead of "unsigned long", you get an even more interesting non-1-1 mapping
>> where a single register is used to hold both 32 bit values, but only when the struct parameter
>> is used:
>>
>>     square_struct:
>>             lsr     x8, x0, #32
>>             mul     w0, w8, w0
>>             ret
>>
>> So there can be more arguments than register used, and also less arguments than register used.
> 
> Correct. But still, I would not call them registers as they may be from the
> stack. I'll stick to calling them _args_ but refer to them in the
> documentation as "argument elements" as they are the building blocks of the
> parameters that are used.

That makes sense. Encoding and decoding of that data will then evolve in fairly arch-specific
and lang-specific ways. Maybe this format should be versioned somewhere to allow future expansion
without breaking change ?

> 
> Thanks for the review.
> 
> -- Steve
> 


      reply	other threads:[~2025-08-04 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-31 18:52 [PATCH 0/2] libtraceevent: Add BTF parsing for function arguments Steven Rostedt
2025-07-31 18:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] libtraceevent: Add loading of BTF to the tep handle Steven Rostedt
2025-08-04 11:47   ` Douglas Raillard
2025-08-04 12:43     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-04 14:18       ` Douglas Raillard
2025-08-04 14:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-04 15:01           ` Douglas Raillard
2025-08-04 16:07   ` Douglas Raillard
2025-08-04 16:26     ` Douglas Raillard
2025-08-04 17:34     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-31 18:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] libtraceevent: Add man page for the new BTF functions Steven Rostedt
2025-08-04 11:09   ` Douglas Raillard
2025-08-04 12:32     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-04 13:19       ` Douglas Raillard [this message]

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