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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: "Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] Provide in-kernel headers for making it easy to extend the kernel
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 09:58:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdU77UyUs-LvRx-NN_k0Y7MZXQkBdgL2i83veCkvdzeeqA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190301160856.129678-1-joel@joelfernandes.org>

Hi Joel,

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:10 PM Joel Fernandes (Google)
<joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> Introduce in-kernel headers and other artifacts which are made available
> as an archive through proc (/proc/kheaders.tar.xz file). This archive makes
> it possible to build kernel modules, run eBPF programs, and other
> tracing programs that need to extend the kernel for tracing purposes
> without any dependency on the file system having headers and build
> artifacts.
>
> On Android and embedded systems, it is common to switch kernels but not
> have kernel headers available on the file system. Raw kernel headers
> also cannot be copied into the filesystem like they can be on other
> distros, due to licensing and other issues. There's no linux-headers
> package on Android. Further once a different kernel is booted, any
> headers stored on the file system will no longer be useful. By storing
> the headers as a compressed archive within the kernel, we can avoid these
> issues that have been a hindrance for a long time.
>
> The feature is also buildable as a module just in case the user desires
> it not being part of the kernel image. This makes it possible to load
> and unload the headers on demand. A tracing program, or a kernel module
> builder can load the module, do its operations, and then unload the
> module to save kernel memory. The total memory needed is 3.8MB.
>
> The code to read the headers is based on /proc/config.gz code and uses
> the same technique to embed the headers.
>
> To build a module, the below steps have been tested on an x86 machine:
> modprobe kheaders
> rm -rf $HOME/headers
> mkdir -p $HOME/headers
> tar -xvf /proc/kheaders.tar.xz -C $HOME/headers >/dev/null
> cd my-kernel-module
> make -C $HOME/headers M=$(pwd) modules
> rmmod kheaders

As the usage pattern will be accessing the individual files, what about
implementing a file system that provides read-only access to the internal
kheaders archive?

    mount kheaders $HOME/headers -t kheaders

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-07  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-01 16:08 [PATCH v4 1/2] Provide in-kernel headers for making it easy to extend the kernel Joel Fernandes (Google)
2019-03-01 16:08 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] Add selftests for module build using in-kernel headers Joel Fernandes (Google)
2019-03-02 21:59 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] Provide in-kernel headers for making it easy to extend the kernel kbuild test robot
2019-03-03 16:11   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-06 12:26     ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-03-06 17:49       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-07  4:59         ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-03-07 14:54           ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-07 23:23       ` Justin Capella
2019-03-06 18:16     ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-07  4:54       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-03-03  2:04 ` kbuild test robot
2019-03-04 14:00 ` Qais Yousef
2019-03-05 16:27   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-04 22:48 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-03-05 16:25   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-07  8:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2019-03-07 15:03   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-07 15:23     ` Greg KH
2019-03-07 16:54       ` Joel Fernandes
     [not found]       ` <20190318185742.109dee5c@alans-desktop>
2019-03-18 21:11         ` Karim Yaghmour
2019-03-08  8:53     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-03-08 13:42       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-08 13:57         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-03-08 14:04           ` Greg KH
2019-03-08 14:02         ` Greg KH
2019-03-08 17:58           ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-08 17:59           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-03-09  7:16             ` Greg KH
2019-03-09 11:40               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-03-09 12:11                 ` Greg KH
2019-03-09 16:51                   ` Karim Yaghmour
2019-03-09 19:26                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-03-09 21:44                       ` Karim Yaghmour
2019-03-11  8:03                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-03-12 15:15                           ` Karim Yaghmour
2019-03-11 23:36                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-11 23:58                           ` Daniel Colascione
2019-03-12  0:39                             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-12  1:28                               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-12  1:38                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-13  1:18                                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-14 12:27                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2019-03-15 13:14                                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-12  1:45                                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-12 15:26                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-12  1:22                             ` Steven Rostedt

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