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From: Menglong Dong <menglong.dong@linux.dev>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux trace kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] tracing: Guard __DECLARE_TRACE() use of __DO_TRACE_CALL() with SRCU-fast
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 15:23:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13926791.uLZWGnKmhe@7940hx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260109160202.22975aa4@gandalf.local.home>

On 2026/1/10 05:02 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> write:
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 15:21:19 -0500
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> 
> > * preempt disable/enable pair:                                     1.1 ns
> > * srcu-fast lock/unlock:                                           1.5 ns
> > 
> > CONFIG_RCU_REF_SCALE_TEST=y
> > * migrate disable/enable pair:                                     3.0 ns
> > * calls to migrate disable/enable pair within noinline functions: 17.0 ns
> > 
> > CONFIG_RCU_REF_SCALE_TEST=m
> > * migrate disable/enable pair:                                    22.0 ns
> 
> OUCH! So migrate disable/enable has a much larger overhead when executed in
> a module than in the kernel? This means all spin_locks() in modules
> converted to mutexes in PREEMPT_RT are taking this hit!
> 
> It looks like it has to allow access to the rq->nr_pinned. There's a hack to
> expose this part of the rq struct for in-kernel by the following:
> 
> kernel/sched/rq-offsets.c:      DEFINE(RQ_nr_pinned, offsetof(struct rq, nr_pinned));
> 
> Then for the in-kernel code we have:
> 
> #define this_rq_raw() arch_raw_cpu_ptr(&runqueues)
> #else
> #define this_rq_raw() PERCPU_PTR(&runqueues)
> #endif
> #define this_rq_pinned() (*(unsigned int *)((void *)this_rq_raw() + RQ_nr_pinned))
> 
> Looking at the scheduler code, the rq->nr_pinned is referenced by a static
> function with:
> 
> static inline bool rq_has_pinned_tasks(struct rq *rq)
> {
> 	return rq->nr_pinned;
> }
> 
> Which is only referenced in hotplug code and a balance_push() path in load
> balancing. Does this variable really need to be in the runqueue struct?
> 
> Why not just make it a per-cpu variable. Maybe call it cpu_nr_pinned_tasks,
> and export that for all to use?
> 
> It will not only fix the discrepancy between the overhead of
> migrate_disable/enable in modules vs in-kernel. But it also removes the
> hack to expose a portion of the runqueue.

I think it's a good idea to factor out the "nr_pinned" from struct rq.
The current approach that we inline the migrate_disable is a little
obscure. The initial propose of inline migrate_disable is to optimize the
performance of bpf trampoline, so the modules are not considered.

As you said, rq_has_pinned_tasks() is the only place that use the
nr_pinned, except the migrate_disable/migrate_enable. After more
analysis, I think maybe we can do it this way:

DEFINE_PER_CPU_SHARED_ALIGNED(int, cpu_nr_pinned_tasks);

And change rq_has_pinned_tasks() to:
static inline bool rq_has_pinned_tasks(struct rq *rq)
{
	return *per_cpu_ptr(&cpu_nr_pinned_tasks, rq->cpu);
}

The "rq" in rq_has_pinned_tasks() may come from other CPU, so we
can't use "return this_cpu_read(cpu_nr_pinned_tasks)" directly.

Thanks!
Menglong Dong

> 
> -- Steve
> 
> 





  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-12  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-09  3:05 [PATCH v5] tracing: Guard __DECLARE_TRACE() use of __DO_TRACE_CALL() with SRCU-fast Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 14:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 17:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 18:58     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-13 13:56       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-09 19:10   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 19:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 20:21       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 21:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12  7:23           ` Menglong Dong [this message]
2026-01-12 15:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 15:36             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12 15:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-09 21:54         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 22:00           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 22:18             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 22:31               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 22:33               ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 22:39                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-10  0:35                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-10 16:14                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-11 20:04                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-11 22:09                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-11 23:38                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-12 13:53                             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12 17:19                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-13 14:23                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-13 23:44                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 19:19     ` Yonghong Song

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