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From: Arun George <arun.george@samsung.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
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Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 18:02:57 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1983025922.01777297382206.JavaMail.epsvc@epcpadp2new> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260222084842.1824063-1-gourry@gourry.net>

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On 22/02/26 03:48AM, Gregory Price wrote:
>Topic type: MM
>
>Presenter: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
>
>This series introduces N_MEMORY_PRIVATE, a NUMA node state for memory
>managed by the buddy allocator but excluded from normal allocations.
>
>I present it with an end-to-end Compressed RAM service (mm/cram.c)
>that would otherwise not be possible (or would be considerably more
>difficult, be device-specific, and add to the ZONE_DEVICE boondoggle).
>
>
>TL;DR
>===
>
Appreciate the work as we also chase the same problem statement.
A few queries please.

I see the current support relies on read-only mappings which might
limit the performance. Any particular workload you are targeting with
this (which can tolerate this latency)?

Any deployments you think of where the goal is a capacity expansion
with a compromise in performance?

On the device side, are you targeting beyond compressed RAM like
devices such as memory with NAND etc.?

The TL;DR talked about mmap/mbind way of user space allocation from
the private node. But the allocation is controlled by GFP flag
N_MEMORY_PRIVATE. Does the user space path of allocation set this
flag along the way?

And I believe the bear-proof cage might work in the normal scenarios,
but may not work for all. We might not be able to rely on the control
path (backpressure) fully. The control path could go slow, slower and
even die as well. Should the device respond with something like
'bus error' if the host tries to write when it is not capable of
taking any more writes?

Are there any workloads (VM?) where this 'bus error'or similar error
could be an OK / recoverable scenario?

This is assuming that checking with the device on every operation
(whether it is safe to write or not) could be slow.

--- Arun George

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-27 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2026-02-22  8:48 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM) Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/27] numa: introduce N_MEMORY_PRIVATE node state Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/27] mm,cpuset: gate allocations from N_MEMORY_PRIVATE behind __GFP_PRIVATE Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/27] mm/page_alloc: add numa_zone_allowed() and wire it up Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/27] mm/page_alloc: Add private node handling to build_zonelists Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/27] mm: introduce folio_is_private_managed() unified predicate Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/27] mm/mlock: skip mlock for managed-memory folios Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/27] mm/madvise: skip madvise " Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/27] mm/ksm: skip KSM " Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/27] mm/khugepaged: skip private node folios when trying to collapse Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/27] mm/swap: add free_folio callback for folio release cleanup Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/27] mm/huge_memory.c: add private node folio split notification callback Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/27] mm/migrate: NP_OPS_MIGRATION - support private node user migration Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/27] mm/mempolicy: NP_OPS_MEMPOLICY - support private node mempolicy Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/27] mm/memory-tiers: NP_OPS_DEMOTION - support private node demotion Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/27] mm/mprotect: NP_OPS_PROTECT_WRITE - gate PTE/PMD write-upgrades Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/27] mm: NP_OPS_RECLAIM - private node reclaim participation Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/27] mm/oom: NP_OPS_OOM_ELIGIBLE - private node OOM participation Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/27] mm/memory: NP_OPS_NUMA_BALANCING - private node NUMA balancing Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/27] mm/compaction: NP_OPS_COMPACTION - private node compaction support Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/27] mm/gup: NP_OPS_LONGTERM_PIN - private node longterm pin support Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/27] mm/memory-failure: add memory_failure callback to node_private_ops Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 22/27] mm/memory_hotplug: add add_private_memory_driver_managed() Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 23/27] mm/cram: add compressed ram memory management subsystem Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 24/27] cxl/core: Add cxl_sysram region type Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 25/27] cxl/core: Add private node support to cxl_sysram Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 26/27] cxl: add cxl_mempolicy sample PCI driver Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48   ` [RFC PATCH v4 27/27] cxl: add cxl_compression " Gregory Price
2026-02-23 13:07   ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM) David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 14:54     ` Gregory Price
2026-02-23 16:08       ` Gregory Price
2026-03-17 13:05         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 14:29           ` Gregory Price
2026-02-24  6:19   ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-24 15:17     ` Gregory Price
2026-02-24 16:54       ` Gregory Price
2026-02-25 22:21       ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-25 23:58         ` Gregory Price
2026-02-26  3:27       ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-26  5:54         ` Gregory Price
2026-02-26 22:49           ` Gregory Price
2026-03-03 20:36         ` Gregory Price
2026-02-25 12:40   ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2026-02-25 14:43     ` Gregory Price
2026-03-17 13:25   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 15:09     ` Gregory Price
2026-04-13 13:11       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 17:05         ` Gregory Price
2026-04-15  9:49           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 15:17             ` Gregory Price
2026-04-15 19:47               ` Frank van der Linden
2026-04-16  1:24                 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-17  9:50                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17 15:07                     ` Gregory Price
2026-04-16 20:23                 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-17  9:39                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17  9:37               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17 14:45                 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-20  2:56                 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-27 12:32   ` Arun George [this message]
2026-04-27 22:28     ` Gregory Price

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