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From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Francis Laniel <flaniel@linux.microsoft.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/1] tracing/kprobe: Add multi-probe support for 'perf_kprobe' PMU
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 21:37:05 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230818213705.b4f5e18b392c4837068cba6f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230817111303.47b50197@gandalf.local.home>

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:13:03 -0400
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:59:30 +0200
> Francis Laniel <flaniel@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Why can't you just pass in the address like sysfs does?  
> > 
> > To get the addresses from /proc/kallsyms, you need to either have CAP_SYSLOG 
> > or even CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
> > But to call perf_event_open(), you only need CAP_PERFMON.
> > This way, by giving only the name you can trace function with less privileges 
> > (i.e. without CAP_SYS_ADMIN).
> > Please correct me if I am wrong as I am not an expert in knowing the minimal 
> > set of capabilities you need to trace.
> 
> I wonder if we should add an option to put in the non-relocated address?
> One that can be acquired by debuginfo in the vmlinux. I'm assuming that the
> kernel has access to the added offset (I haven't looked). If it does, then
> we could allow users to just add something like "+@0xffffffffdeadbeef" and
> add the relocation offset to get to the mapped address of the function.

That's why perf probe uses the offset from '_text'. Normal KASLR will just
moves all symbols. (Finer one will move all symbols randomely)
This should not need to access /proc/kallsyms but vmlinux or SystemMap.

Thank you,

> 
> This would allow those without kallsym privileges to pass in kernel address
> for tracing.
> 
> -- Steve


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-18 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230816163517.112518-1-flaniel@linux.microsoft.com>
2023-08-16 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/1] tracing/kprobe: Add multi-probe support for 'perf_kprobe' PMU Francis Laniel
2023-08-16 18:42   ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-17 10:59     ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-17 15:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-18  9:01         ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-18 12:37         ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2023-08-18 15:41           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-18 18:13             ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-18 18:20               ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-19  1:15                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-19 15:22                   ` Song Liu
2023-08-20  9:32                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-20 10:02                       ` Song Liu
2023-08-20 13:16                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-21  6:09                           ` Song Liu
2023-08-21 10:01                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-21 14:45                               ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-21 18:07                                 ` Kees Cook
2023-08-21 14:29                         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-21 15:19                           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-21 15:28                             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-17  7:50   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-17 11:06     ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-18 13:05       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-18 18:12         ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-19  1:11           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-20 20:23             ` Jiri Olsa
2023-08-21 12:22               ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-20 20:34             ` Jiri Olsa
2023-08-21 12:24               ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-22 13:13                 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-08-21 12:55             ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-23  0:36               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-23  9:54                 ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-23 13:45                   ` Masami Hiramatsu

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