From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
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Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] tracing/kprobes: Use APIs that matches symbols without .XXX suffix
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 05:55:46 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240808055546.9b7f8089a10713d83ba29a75@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BEEE3F89-717B-44A4-8571-68DA69408DA4@fb.com>
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 00:19:20 +0000
Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 2024, at 5:01 PM, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 20:12:55 +0000
> > Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 6, 2024, at 1:01 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:00:49 -0400
> >>> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_LTO_CLANG) && !addr)
> >>>>>>> + addr = kallsyms_lookup_name_without_suffix(trace_kprobe_symbol(tk));
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So you do the lookup twice if this is enabled?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Why not just use "kallsyms_lookup_name_without_suffix()" the entire time,
> >>>>>> and it should work just the same as "kallsyms_lookup_name()" if it's not
> >>>>>> needed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We still want to give priority to full match. For example, we have:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [root@~]# grep c_next /proc/kallsyms
> >>>>> ffffffff81419dc0 t c_next.llvm.7567888411731313343
> >>>>> ffffffff81680600 t c_next
> >>>>> ffffffff81854380 t c_next.llvm.14337844803752139461
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the goal is to explicitly trace c_next.llvm.7567888411731313343, the
> >>>>> user can provide the full name. If we always match _without_suffix, all
> >>>>> of the 3 will match to the first one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does this make sense?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes. Sorry, I missed the "&& !addr)" after the "IS_ENABLED()", which looked
> >>>> like you did the command twice.
> >>>
> >>> But that said, does this only have to be for llvm? Or should we do this for
> >>> even gcc? As I believe gcc can give strange symbols too.
> >>
> >> I think most of the issue comes with LTO, as LTO promotes local static
> >> functions to global functions. IIUC, we don't have GCC built, LTO enabled
> >> kernel yet.
> >>
> >> In my GCC built, we have suffixes like ".constprop.0", ".part.0", ".isra.0",
> >> and ".isra.0.cold". We didn't do anything about these before this set. So I
> >> think we are OK not handling them now. We sure can enable it for GCC built
> >> kernel in the future.
> >
> > Hmm, I think it should be handled as it is. This means it should do as
> > livepatch does. Since I expected user will check kallsyms if gets error,
> > we should keep this as it is. (if a symbol has suffix, it should accept
> > symbol with suffix, or user will get confused because they can not find
> > which symbol is kprobed.)
> >
> > Sorry about the conclusion (so I NAK this), but this is a good discussion.
>
> Do you mean we do not want patch 3/3, but would like to keep 1/3 and part
> of 2/3 (remove the _without_suffix APIs)? If this is the case, we are
> undoing the change by Sami in [1], and thus may break some tracing tools.
BTW, I confirmed that the PATCH 1/3 and 2/3 fixes kprobes to probe on suffixed
symbols correctly. (because 1/3 allows to search suffixed symbols)
/sys/kernel/tracing # cat dynamic_events
p:kprobes/p_c_stop_llvm_17132674095431275852_0 c_stop.llvm.17132674095431275852
p:kprobes/p_c_stop_llvm_8011538628216713357_0 c_stop.llvm.8011538628216713357
p:kprobes/p_c_stop_0 c_stop
Thank you,
>
> Sami, could you please share your thoughts on this?
>
> If this works, I will send next version with 1/3 and part of 2/3.
>
> Thanks,
> Song
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210408182843.1754385-8-samitolvanen@google.com/
>
--
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-07 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-02 21:08 [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix kallsyms with CONFIG_LTO_CLANG Song Liu
2024-08-02 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] kallsyms: Do not cleanup .llvm.<hash> suffix before sorting symbols Song Liu
2024-08-02 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] kallsyms: Add APIs to match symbol without .XXXX suffix Song Liu
2024-08-05 13:45 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-05 17:46 ` Song Liu
2024-08-08 10:20 ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-08 15:13 ` Song Liu
2024-08-02 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] tracing/kprobes: Use APIs that matches symbols without .XXX suffix Song Liu
2024-08-06 18:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-06 19:35 ` Song Liu
2024-08-06 20:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-06 20:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-06 20:12 ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 0:01 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-07 0:19 ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 10:08 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-07 15:33 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-07 20:48 ` Song Liu
2024-08-08 9:59 ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-08 15:20 ` Song Liu
2024-08-09 15:40 ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-09 16:33 ` Song Liu
2024-08-08 15:52 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-09 6:20 ` Alessandro Carminati
2024-08-09 16:40 ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 21:26 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-07 19:41 ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 20:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-07 20:40 ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 20:43 ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 20:55 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2024-08-07 21:07 ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 14:58 ` zhang warden
2024-08-07 19:46 ` Song Liu
2024-08-08 2:10 ` zhang warden
2024-08-08 9:48 ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-08 15:17 ` Song Liu
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