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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org, Jordan Rome <jordalgo@meta.com>,
	Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/19] unwind: Add deferred user space unwinding API
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:47:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241030174752.gwzk6q6n2f3sg52a@treble.attlocal.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74afc8d4-621a-4876-a8cf-6165a913e4b3@efficios.com>

On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 09:44:14AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> What you want here is to move the point where you clear the task
> cookie to _after_ completion of stack unwind. There are a few ways
> this can be done:
> 
> A) Clear the task cookie in the task_work() right after the
>    unwind_user_deferred() is completed. Downside: if some long task work
>    happen to be done after the stack walk, a new unwind_user_deferred()
>    could be issued again and we may end up looping forever taking stack
>    unwind and never actually making forward progress.
> 
> B) Clear the task cookie after the exit_to_user_mode_loop is done,
>    before returning to user-space, while interrupts are disabled.

Problem is, if another tracer calls unwind_user_deferred() for the first
time, after the task work but before the task cookie gets cleared, it
will see the cookie is non-zero and will fail to schedule another task
work.  So its callback never gets called.

> > If I change the entry code to increment a per-task counter instead of a
> > per-cpu counter then this problem goes away.  I was just concerned about
> > the performance impacts of doing that on every entry.
> 
> Moving from per-cpu to per-task makes this cookie task-specific and not
> global anymore, I don't think we want this for a stack walking
> infrastructure meant to be used by various tracers. Also a global cookie
> is more robust and does not depend on guaranteeing that all the
> trace data is present to guarantee current thread ID accuracy and
> thus that cookies match between deferred unwind request and their
> fulfillment.

I don't disagree.  What I meant was, on entry (or exit), increment the
task cookie *with* the CPU bits included.

Or as you suggested previously, the "cookie" just be a struct with two
fields: CPU # and per-task entry counter.

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-30 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-10-30 13:44           ` [PATCH v3 11/19] unwind: Add deferred user space unwinding API Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-30 17:47             ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2024-10-30 17:55               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-30 18:25               ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found] ` <42c0a99236af65c09c8182e260af7bcf5aa1e158.1730150953.git.jpoimboe@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <20241105124053.523e93dd@gandalf.local.home>
2024-11-05 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 09/19] unwind: Introduce sframe user space unwinding Steven Rostedt
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     [not found]       ` <20241113211535.ghnw52wkgudkjvgv@jpoimboe>
     [not found]         ` <20241113171326.6d1ddc83@gandalf.local.home>
2024-11-13 22:21           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-11-13 22:25             ` Steven Rostedt

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