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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: 'Jiri Olsa' <olsajiri@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 08/13] uprobes/x86: Add support to optimize uprobes
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 11:12:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241216101258.GA374@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c5fb22629d3f42798def5b63ce834801@AcuMS.aculab.com>

David,

let me say first that my understanding of this magic is very limited,
please correct me.

On 12/16, David Laight wrote:
>
> It all depends on how hard __replace_page() tries to be atomic.
> The page has to change from one backed by the executable to a private
> one backed by swap - otherwise you can't write to it.

This is what uprobe_write_opcode() does,

> But the problems arise when the instruction prefetch unit has read
> part of the 5-byte instruction (it might even only read half a cache
> line at a time).
> I'm not sure how long the pipeline can sit in that state - but I
> can do a memory read of a PCIe address that takes ~3000 clocks.
> (And a misaligned AVX-512 read is probably eight 8-byte transfers.)
>
> So I think you need to force an interrupt while the PTE is invalid.
> And that need to be simultaneous on all cpu running that process.

__replace_page() does ptep_get_and_clear(old_pte) + flush_tlb_page().

That's not enough?

> Stopping the process using ptrace would do it.

Not an option :/

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-16 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-11 13:33 [PATCH bpf-next 00/13] uprobes: Add support to optimize usdt probes on x86_64 Jiri Olsa
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 01/13] uprobes: Rename arch_uretprobe_trampoline function Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13  0:42   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 02/13] uprobes: Make copy_from_page global Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13  0:43   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 03/13] uprobes: Add nbytes argument to uprobe_write_opcode Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13  0:45   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 04/13] uprobes: Add arch_uprobe_verify_opcode function Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13  0:48   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-13 13:21     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 21:11       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-13 21:52         ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 05/13] uprobes: Add mapping for optimized uprobe trampolines Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13  1:01   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-13 13:42     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 21:58       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 06/13] uprobes/x86: Add uprobe syscall to speed up uprobe Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 13:48   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2024-12-13 14:51     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 15:12       ` Thomas Weißschuh
2024-12-13 21:52         ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-14 13:21           ` Thomas Weißschuh
2024-12-16  8:03             ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 07/13] uprobes/x86: Add support to emulate nop5 instruction Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 10:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 13:02     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 08/13] uprobes/x86: Add support to optimize uprobes Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 10:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 13:06     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 21:58   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-15 12:06   ` David Laight
2024-12-15 14:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-16  8:08       ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-16  9:18         ` David Laight
2024-12-16 10:12           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-12-16 11:10             ` David Laight
2024-12-16 12:22               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-16 12:50                 ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-16 15:08                   ` David Laight
2024-12-16 16:06                     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 09/13] selftests/bpf: Use 5-byte nop for x86 usdt probes Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 21:58   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-16  8:32     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-16 23:06       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-11 13:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 10/13] selftests/bpf: Add uprobe/usdt optimized test Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 21:58   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-16  7:58     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-11 13:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next 11/13] selftests/bpf: Add hit/attach/detach race optimized uprobe test Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 21:58   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-16  7:59     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-11 13:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next 12/13] selftests/bpf: Add uprobe syscall sigill signal test Jiri Olsa
2024-12-11 13:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next 13/13] selftests/bpf: Add 5-byte nop uprobe trigger bench Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 21:57   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-16  7:56     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH bpf-next 00/13] uprobes: Add support to optimize usdt probes on x86_64 Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-13  9:46   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 13:07   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 13:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 14:05       ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 18:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 21:52           ` Jiri Olsa
2024-12-13 21:59             ` Andrii Nakryiko

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