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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Eyal Birger <eyal.birger@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] seccomp: passthrough uretprobe systemcall without filtering
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:28:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250121152843.GC3422@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202501201331.83DB01794@keescook>

On 01/20, Kees Cook wrote:
>
> > The only difference is that sys_uretprobe() is new and existing setups
> > doesn't know about it. Suppose you have
> >
> > 	int func(void)
> > 	{
> > 		return 123;
> > 	}
> >
> > 	int main(void)
> > 	{
> > 		seccomp(SECCOMP_SET_MODE_STRICT, 0,0);
> > 		for (;;)
> > 			func();
> > 	}
> >
> > and it runs with func() uretprobed.
> >
> > If you install the new kernel, this application will crash immediately.
> >
> > I understand your objections, but what do you think we can do instead?
> > I don't think a new "try_to_speedup_uretprobes_at_your_own_risk" sysctl
> > makes sense, it will be almost never enabled...
>
> This seems like a uretprobes design problem. If it's going to use
> syscalls, it must take things like seccomp into account.

True. I reviewed that patch, and I forgot about seccomp too.

> SECCOMP_SET_MODE_STRICT will also crash in the face of syscall_restart...

Yes, I guess SECCOMP_SET_MODE_STRICT assumes that read/write can't return
ERESTART_RESTARTBLOCK.

But again, what can we do right now?

I do not like the idea to revert the patch which adds sys_uretprobe().
Don't get me wrong, I do not use uprobes, so personally I don't really
care about the performance improvements it adds. Not to mention FRED,
although I have no idea when it will be available.

Lets forget about sys_uretprobe(). Lets suppose the kernel doesn't have
ERESTART_RESTARTBLOCK/sys_restart_syscall and we want to add this feature
today.

How do you think we can do this without breaking the existing setups which
use seccomp ?

Oleg.


      reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-17  0:55 [PATCH] seccomp: passthrough uretprobe systemcall without filtering Eyal Birger
2025-01-17  1:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-17  8:02   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-01-17 13:36     ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-17 14:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-17 17:51       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-17 19:24         ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-17 19:34           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-18 15:05         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-17 18:34 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2025-01-17 18:52   ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-18 20:21 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-18 20:31   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-18 20:45   ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-19  2:24     ` Kees Cook
2025-01-19  3:39       ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-19 10:44         ` Jiri Olsa
2025-01-20 21:34         ` Kees Cook
2025-01-27 19:24           ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-27 19:33             ` Kees Cook
2025-01-27 19:39               ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-27 19:43                 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-21 14:38         ` Jiri Olsa
2025-01-21 14:47           ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-21 16:16           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-21 16:44             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-21 16:55             ` Jiri Olsa
2025-01-21 22:38               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-21 22:46                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-21 23:13                   ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-21 23:29                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-19 18:36       ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-01-19 12:40   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-20 21:32     ` Kees Cook
2025-01-21 15:28       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]

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