From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 17/39] unwind_user/sframe: Add support for reading .sframe headers
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 10:26:09 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250204182609.ouiy7ppng3rscfpo@jpoimboe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzYvrAAJv0+2FceJfizRURUsWxUBzRL-VOquM+VtAe-goA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 04:02:34PM -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 6:02 PM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org> wrote:
> I'm not sure about this chunked lookup approach for arbitrary user
> space applications. Those executable sections can be a) big and b)
> discontiguous. E.g., one of the production binaries I looked at. Here
> are its three main executable sections:
>
> ...
> [17] .bolt.org.text PROGBITS 000000000b00e640 0ae0d640
> 0000000011ad621c 0000000000000000 AX 0 0 64
> ...
> [48] .text PROGBITS 000000001e600000 1ce00000
> 0000000000775dd8 0000000000000000 AX 0 0 2097152
> [49] .text.cold PROGBITS 000000001ed75e00 1d575e00
> 00000000007d3271 0000000000000000 AX 0 0 64
> ...
>
> Total text size is about 300MB:
> >>> 0x0000000000775dd8 + 0x00000000007d3271 + 0x0000000011ad621c
> 312603237
>
> Section #17 ends at:
>
> >>> hex(0x0000000011ad621c + 0x000000000b00e640)
> '0x1cae485c'
>
> While .text starts at 000000001e600000, so we have a gap of ~28MB:
>
> >>> 0x000000001e600000 - 0x1cae485c
> 28424100
>
> So unless we do something more clever to support multiple
> discontiguous chunks, this seems like a bad fit for user space.
Nothing clever needed, we could just have multiple sframe sections, each
one with a pointer to its text segment. That would also have the
benefit of allowing the sframe data to be much more compact for the
noncontiguous cases.
> I think having all this just binary searchable is already a big win
> anyways and should be plenty fast, no?
Sframe is trying to compete with frame pointers which are MUCH faster.
3-4x faster in my testing, not including the page faults (which tend to
only affect performance in the very beginning).
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-04 18:26 UTC|newest]
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2025-01-22 2:30 [PATCH v4 00/39] unwind, perf: sframe user space unwinding Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:30 ` [PATCH v4 01/39] task_work: Fix TWA_NMI_CURRENT error handling Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 20:47 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 17:15 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 22:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-22 16:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-22 2:30 ` [PATCH v4 02/39] task_work: Fix TWA_NMI_CURRENT race with __schedule() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 12:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 12:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 21:03 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 22:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 8:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-22 16:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-22 17:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:30 ` [PATCH v4 03/39] mm: Add guard for mmap_read_lock Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:30 ` [PATCH v4 04/39] x86/vdso: Fix DWARF generation for getrandom() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:30 ` [PATCH v4 05/39] x86/asm: Avoid emitting DWARF CFI for non-VDSO Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 16:08 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-24 16:47 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:30 ` [PATCH v4 06/39] x86/asm: Fix VDSO DWARF generation with kernel IBT enabled Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:30 ` [PATCH v4 07/39] x86/vdso: Use SYM_FUNC_{START,END} in __kernel_vsyscall() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 08/39] x86/vdso: Use CFI macros in __vdso_sgx_enter_enclave() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 09/39] x86/vdso: Enable sframe generation in VDSO Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 16:00 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-24 16:43 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 16:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-04-22 17:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-24 16:30 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-24 16:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 10/39] x86/uaccess: Add unsafe_copy_from_user() implementation Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 11/39] unwind_user: Add user space unwinding API Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 16:41 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-24 17:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 17:59 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-24 18:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 20:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-24 22:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 12/39] unwind_user: Add frame pointer support Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 17:59 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-24 18:16 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-04-24 13:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 13/39] unwind_user/x86: Enable frame pointer unwinding on x86 Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 14/39] perf/x86: Rename get_segment_base() and make it global Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 21:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 20:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-24 22:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 15/39] unwind_user: Add compat mode frame pointer support Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 16/39] unwind_user/x86: Enable compat mode frame pointer unwinding on x86 Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 17/39] unwind_user/sframe: Add support for reading .sframe headers Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 18:00 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-24 19:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 20:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-24 22:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 22:13 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-01-28 1:10 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-29 2:02 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-30 0:02 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-02-04 18:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2025-01-30 21:39 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-05 0:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-06 1:10 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-05 13:56 ` Jens Remus
2025-02-07 21:13 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-30 21:21 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-04 19:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-05 23:16 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-02-05 11:01 ` Jens Remus
2025-02-05 23:05 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-24 20:31 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 18/39] unwind_user/sframe: Store sframe section data in per-mm maple tree Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 19/39] unwind_user/sframe: Add support for reading .sframe contents Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 16:36 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-24 17:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 18:02 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-24 21:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-28 0:39 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-28 10:50 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-29 2:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-28 10:54 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-30 19:51 ` Weinan Liu
2025-02-04 19:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-30 15:07 ` Indu Bhagat
2025-02-04 18:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-30 15:47 ` Jens Remus
2025-02-04 18:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-05 9:47 ` Jens Remus
2025-02-07 21:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-10 15:56 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 20/39] unwind_user/sframe: Detect .sframe sections in executables Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 21/39] unwind_user/sframe: Add prctl() interface for registering .sframe sections Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 22/39] unwind_user/sframe: Wire up unwind_user to sframe Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 23/39] unwind_user/sframe/x86: Enable sframe unwinding on x86 Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 24/39] unwind_user/sframe: Remove .sframe section on detected corruption Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 25/39] unwind_user/sframe: Show file name in debug output Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-30 16:17 ` Jens Remus
2025-02-04 19:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-05 10:04 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 26/39] unwind_user/sframe: Enable debugging in uaccess regions Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-30 16:38 ` Jens Remus
2025-02-04 19:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 27/39] unwind_user/sframe: Add .sframe validation option Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 28/39] unwind_user/deferred: Add deferred unwinding interface Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 13:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 14:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 22:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 18:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 21:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 21:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 13:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 21:52 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 20:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-01-23 4:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 8:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 18:43 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 22:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-24 21:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-24 22:46 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 22:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 23:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-30 20:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 2:25 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 16:35 ` Jens Remus
2025-01-24 16:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 29/39] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind cache Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 22:36 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 8:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 18:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 30/39] unwind_user/deferred: Make unwind deferral requests NMI-safe Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 14:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 22:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 19:48 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 19:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 22:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 23:34 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 22:52 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 8:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 31/39] perf: Remove get_perf_callchain() 'init_nr' argument Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 32/39] perf: Remove get_perf_callchain() 'crosstask' argument Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-24 18:13 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-24 22:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-28 0:39 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 33/39] perf: Simplify get_perf_callchain() user logic Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 34/39] perf: Skip user unwind if !current->mm Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 14:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 23:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-23 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 35/39] perf: Support deferred user callchains Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 36/39] perf tools: Minimal CALLCHAIN_DEFERRED support Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 37/39] perf record: Enable defer_callchain for user callchains Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 38/39] perf script: Display PERF_RECORD_CALLCHAIN_DEFERRED Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:31 ` [PATCH v4 39/39] perf tools: Merge deferred user callchains Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 2:35 ` [PATCH v4 00/39] unwind, perf: sframe user space unwinding Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-22 16:13 ` Steven Rostedt
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