From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: "Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] mm/hmm: migrate to physical address-based DMA mapping API
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 16:58:28 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250715135828.GE5882@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aHZWlu7Td9ijFhhh@willie-the-truck>
On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 02:24:38PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Leon,
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 04:19:05PM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
> >
> > Convert HMM DMA operations from the legacy page-based API to the new
> > physical address-based dma_map_phys() and dma_unmap_phys() functions.
> > This demonstrates the preferred approach for new code that should use
> > physical addresses directly rather than page+offset parameters.
> >
> > The change replaces dma_map_page() and dma_unmap_page() calls with
> > dma_map_phys() and dma_unmap_phys() respectively, using the physical
> > address that was already available in the code. This eliminates the
> > redundant page-to-physical address conversion and aligns with the
> > DMA subsystem's move toward physical address-centric interfaces.
> >
> > This serves as an example of how new code should be written to leverage
> > the more efficient physical address API, which provides cleaner interfaces
> > for drivers that already have access to physical addresses.
>
> I'm struggling a little to see how this is cleaner or more efficient
> than the old code.
It is not, the main reason for hmm conversion is to show how the API is
used. HMM is built around struct page.
>
> From what I can tell, dma_map_page_attrs() takes a 'struct page *' and
> converts it to a physical address using page_to_phys() whilst your new
> dma_map_phys() interface takes a physical address and converts it to
> a 'struct page *' using phys_to_page(). In both cases, hmm_dma_map_pfn()
> still needs the page for other reasons. If anything, existing users of
> dma_map_page_attrs() now end up with a redundant page-to-phys-to-page
> conversion which hopefully the compiler folds away.
>
> I'm assuming there's future work which builds on top of the new API
> and removes the reliance on 'struct page' entirely, is that right? If
> so, it would've been nicer to be clearer about that as, on its own, I'm
> not really sure this patch series achieves an awful lot and the
> efficiency argument looks quite weak to me.
Yes, there is ongoing work, which is built on top of dma_map_phys() API
and can't be built without DMA phys.
My WIP branch, where I'm using it can be found here:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/leon/linux-rdma.git/log/?h=dmabuf-vfio
In that branch, we save one phys_to_page conversion in block datapath:
block-dma: migrate to dma_map_phys instead of map_page
and implement DMABUF exporter for MMIO pages:
vfio/pci: Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf
see vfio_pci_dma_buf_map() function.
Thanks
>
> Cheers,
>
> Will
>
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2025-06-25 13:18 ` [PATCH 0/8] dma-mapping: migrate to physical address-based API Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-25 13:18 ` [PATCH 1/8] dma-debug: refactor to use physical addresses for page mapping Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-25 13:18 ` [PATCH 2/8] dma-mapping: rename trace_dma_*map_page to trace_dma_*map_phys Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-25 13:19 ` [PATCH 3/8] iommu/dma: rename iommu_dma_*map_page to iommu_dma_*map_phys Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-25 13:19 ` [PATCH 4/8] dma-mapping: convert dma_direct_*map_page to be phys_addr_t based Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-25 13:19 ` [PATCH 5/8] kmsan: convert kmsan_handle_dma to use physical addresses Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-26 17:43 ` Alexander Potapenko
2025-06-26 18:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-27 16:28 ` Alexander Potapenko
2025-06-25 13:19 ` [PATCH 6/8] dma-mapping: fail early if physical address is mapped through platform callback Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-25 20:04 ` Robin Murphy
2025-07-27 6:30 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-25 13:19 ` [PATCH 7/8] dma-mapping: export new dma_*map_phys() interface Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-25 13:19 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm/hmm: migrate to physical address-based DMA mapping API Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-15 13:24 ` Will Deacon
2025-07-15 13:58 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2025-06-27 13:44 ` [PATCH 0/8] dma-mapping: migrate to physical address-based API Marek Szyprowski
2025-06-27 17:02 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-06-30 13:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-08 10:27 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-07-08 11:00 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-08 11:45 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-07-08 12:06 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-08 12:56 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-07-08 15:57 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-07-30 11:11 ` Robin Murphy
2025-07-30 13:40 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-30 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 6:01 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-30 16:32 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-07-31 17:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-08-03 15:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04 3:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-08-05 15:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-06 6:00 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-25 20:05 ` Robin Murphy
2025-07-29 14:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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