From: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] sched: Add task enqueue/dequeue trace points
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:05:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250821070504.-ZhqdfHs@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250815135212.GA1386988@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 03:52:12PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 03:40:17PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 10:01:20AM +0200, Nam Cao wrote:
> >
> > > +/*
> > > + * The two trace points below may not work as expected for fair tasks due
> > > + * to delayed dequeue. See:
> > > + * https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/179674c6-f82a-4718-ace2-67b5e672fdee@amd.com/
> > > + */
> >
> > > +DECLARE_TRACE(dequeue_task,
> > > + TP_PROTO(int cpu, struct task_struct *task),
> > > + TP_ARGS(cpu, task));
> > > +
> >
> > > @@ -2119,7 +2121,11 @@ inline bool dequeue_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
> > > * and mark the task ->sched_delayed.
> > > */
> > > uclamp_rq_dec(rq, p);
> > > - return p->sched_class->dequeue_task(rq, p, flags);
> > > + if (p->sched_class->dequeue_task(rq, p, flags)) {
> > > + trace_dequeue_task_tp(rq->cpu, p);
> > > + return true;
> > > + }
> > > + return false;
> > > }
> >
> > Hurmpff.. that's not very nice.
> >
> > How about something like:
> >
> > dequeue_task():
> > ...
> > ret = p->sched_class->dequeue_task(rq, p, flags);
> > if (trace_dequeue_task_p_enabled() && !(flags & DEQUEUE_SLEEP))
> > __trace_dequeue_task_tp(rq->cpu, p);
> > return ret;
> >
> >
> > __block_task():
> > trace_dequeue_task_tp(rq->cpu, p);
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Specifically, only DEQUEUE_SLEEP is allowed to fail, and DEQUEUE_SLEEP
> > will eventually cause __block_task() to be called, either directly, or
> > delayed.
>
> If you extend the tracepoint with the sleep state, you can probably
> remove the nr_running tracepoints. Esp. once we get this new throttle
> stuff sorted.
Sorry, I'm a bit out of depth here. Can you elaborate?
By "sleep state" do you mean (flags & DEQUEUE_SLEEP)? The nr_running
tracepoints are not hit if the task is throttled, while these new
tracepoints are hit. How does the sleep state help with this difference?
Also +Cc Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, who seems to care about the
nr_running tracepoints.
Nam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-21 7:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-06 8:01 [PATCH v2 0/5] rv: LTL per-cpu monitor type and real-time scheduling monitor Nam Cao
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] rv/ltl: Prepare for other monitor types Nam Cao
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] rv/ltl: Support per-cpu monitors Nam Cao
2025-08-07 13:28 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] verification/rvgen/ltl: Support per-cpu monitor generation Nam Cao
2025-08-07 13:06 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-08 5:12 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-08 6:21 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-08 6:30 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] sched: Add task enqueue/dequeue trace points Nam Cao
2025-08-15 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-15 13:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-21 7:05 ` Nam Cao [this message]
2025-08-21 8:43 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-19 7:49 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-19 8:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] rv: Add rts monitor Nam Cao
2025-08-06 20:28 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-07 13:33 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-08 5:13 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-07 14:34 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-08 5:29 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-08 7:30 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-15 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-19 7:54 ` Nam Cao
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