From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Menglong Dong <dongml2@chinatelecom.cn>,
mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
tgraf@suug.ch, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing: fprobe: fix suspicious rcu usage in fprobe_entry
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 15:59:53 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250902155953.048dc8eab1f7f07e4bf35aab@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <615da75d-cb2f-4e7e-9e11-6b19f03fea6c@paulmck-laptop>
On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 08:00:15 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 01, 2025 at 05:06:55PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 04:11:02 -0700
> > "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 10:23:57PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 10:14:36 +0800
> > > > Menglong Dong <dongml2@chinatelecom.cn> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > rcu_read_lock() is not needed in fprobe_entry, but rcu_dereference_check()
> > > > > is used in rhltable_lookup(), which causes suspicious RCU usage warning:
> > > > >
> > > > > WARNING: suspicious RCU usage
> > > > > 6.17.0-rc1-00001-gdfe0d675df82 #1 Tainted: G S
> > > > > -----------------------------
> > > > > include/linux/rhashtable.h:602 suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage!
> > > > > ......
> > > > > stack backtrace:
> > > > > CPU: 1 UID: 0 PID: 4652 Comm: ftracetest Tainted: G S
> > > > > Tainted: [S]=CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC, [I]=FIRMWARE_WORKAROUND
> > > > > Hardware name: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 7040/0Y7WYT, BIOS 1.1.1 10/07/2015
> > > > > Call Trace:
> > > > > <TASK>
> > > > > dump_stack_lvl+0x7c/0x90
> > > > > lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0x14f/0x1c0
> > > > > __rhashtable_lookup+0x1e0/0x260
> > > > > ? __pfx_kernel_clone+0x10/0x10
> > > > > fprobe_entry+0x9a/0x450
> > > > > ? __lock_acquire+0x6b0/0xca0
> > > > > ? find_held_lock+0x2b/0x80
> > > > > ? __pfx_fprobe_entry+0x10/0x10
> > > > > ? __pfx_kernel_clone+0x10/0x10
> > > > > ? lock_acquire+0x14c/0x2d0
> > > > > ? __might_fault+0x74/0xc0
> > > > > function_graph_enter_regs+0x2a0/0x550
> > > > > ? __do_sys_clone+0xb5/0x100
> > > > > ? __pfx_function_graph_enter_regs+0x10/0x10
> > > > > ? _copy_to_user+0x58/0x70
> > > > > ? __pfx_kernel_clone+0x10/0x10
> > > > > ? __x64_sys_rt_sigprocmask+0x114/0x180
> > > > > ? __pfx___x64_sys_rt_sigprocmask+0x10/0x10
> > > > > ? __pfx_kernel_clone+0x10/0x10
> > > > > ftrace_graph_func+0x87/0xb0
> > > > >
> > > > > Fix this by using rcu_read_lock() for rhltable_lookup(). Alternatively, we
> > > > > can use rcu_lock_acquire(&rcu_lock_map) here to obtain better performance.
> > > > > However, it's not a common usage :/
> > > >
> > > > So this is needed even though it's called under preempt_disable().
> > > >
> > > > Paul, do we need to add an rcu_read_lock() because the code in rht
> > > > (rhashtable) requires RCU read lock?
> > > >
> > > > I thought that rcu_read_lock() and preempt_disable() have been merged?
> > >
> > > Yes, preempt_disable() does indeed start an RCU read-side critical section,
> > > just as surely as rcu_read_lock() does.
> > >
> > > However, this is a lockdep check inside of __rhashtable_lookup():
> > >
> > > rht_dereference_rcu(ht->tbl, ht)
> > >
> > > Which is defined as:
> > >
> > > rcu_dereference_check(p, lockdep_rht_mutex_is_held(ht));
> > >
> > > This is explicitly telling lockdep that rcu_read_lock() is OK and
> > > holding ht->mutex is OK, but nothing else is.
> >
> > That is similar to the kprobes, which also allows accessing in
> > rcu critical section or under mutex.
> >
> > > So an alternative way to fix this is to declare it to be a false positive,
> > > and then avoid that false positive by adding a check that preemption
> > > is disabled. Adding the rhashtable maintainers for their perspective.
> >
> > What about changing it alloing it with preempt disabled flag?
>
> I am not sure that "it" that you are proposing changing. ;-)
Sorry, Ii meant the rcu_dereference_check().
>
> However, another option for the the above rcu_dereference_check() to
> become something like this:
>
> rcu_dereference_check(p, lockdep_rht_mutex_is_held(ht) ||
> rcu_read_lock_any_held());
>
> This would be happy with any RCU reader, including rcu_read_lock(),
> preempt_disable(), local_irq_disable(), local_bh_disable(), and various
> handler contexts. One downside is that this would *always* be happy in
> a kernel built with CONFIG_PREEMPT_{NONE,VOLUNTARY}=y.
Ah, indeed. This means that we lose the ability to explicitly check
whether the rcu pointer is in a critical section on that kernel.
>
> If this is happening often enough, it would be easy for me to create an
> rcu_dereference_all_check() that allows all forms of vanilla RCU readers
> (but not, for example, SRCU readers), but with only two use cases,
> it is not clear to me that this is an overall win.
OK, I think this discussion is important for the patch from Menglong [1]
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250829021436.19982-1-dongml2@chinatelecom.cn/
because this does not make an rcu critical section while using `head`
but it works because fprobe_entry() runs under preempt_disable().
Is it better to use `guard(rcu)()` instead of rcu_read_lock() so that
it explicitly secure the `head` usage? I just wonder if there is any
downside to extend rcu_read_lock() area (still in the same
preempt_disable section).
Thank you,
>
> Or am I missing a turn in here somewhere?
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
> > Thank you,
> >
> > >
> > > Thanx, Paul
> > >
> > > > -- Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Reported-by: kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>
> > > > > Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/oe-lkp/202508281655.54c87330-lkp@intel.com
> > > > > Fixes: dfe0d675df82 ("tracing: fprobe: use rhltable for fprobe_ip_table")
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Menglong Dong <dongml2@chinatelecom.cn>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > kernel/trace/fprobe.c | 2 ++
> > > > > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/trace/fprobe.c b/kernel/trace/fprobe.c
> > > > > index fb127fa95f21..fece0f849c1c 100644
> > > > > --- a/kernel/trace/fprobe.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/trace/fprobe.c
> > > > > @@ -269,7 +269,9 @@ static int fprobe_entry(struct ftrace_graph_ent *trace, struct fgraph_ops *gops,
> > > > > if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!fregs))
> > > > > return 0;
> > > > >
> > > > > + rcu_read_lock();
> > > > > head = rhltable_lookup(&fprobe_ip_table, &func, fprobe_rht_params);
> > > > > + rcu_read_unlock();
> > > > > reserved_words = 0;
> > > > > rhl_for_each_entry_rcu(node, pos, head, hlist) {
> > > > > if (node->addr != func)
> > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
--
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-02 6:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-29 2:14 [PATCH] tracing: fprobe: fix suspicious rcu usage in fprobe_entry Menglong Dong
2025-08-29 2:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-29 2:49 ` menglong.dong
2025-08-29 11:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-08-29 11:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-01 8:06 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-09-01 15:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-02 6:59 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2025-09-02 11:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-03 9:43 ` Herbert Xu
2025-09-04 9:44 ` [PATCH] rhashtable: Use rcu_dereference_all and rcu_dereference_all_check Herbert Xu
2025-09-01 10:06 ` [PATCH] tracing: fprobe: fix suspicious rcu usage in fprobe_entry Herbert Xu
2025-09-01 8:22 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-09-02 9:17 ` Herbert Xu
2025-09-02 9:50 ` menglong.dong
2025-09-03 4:22 ` Herbert Xu
2025-09-04 3:37 ` Menglong Dong
2025-09-04 4:29 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-09-04 5:42 ` Menglong Dong
2025-09-04 9:08 ` Herbert Xu
2025-09-02 14:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-03 4:23 ` Herbert Xu
2025-09-04 5:41 ` menglong.dong
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20250902155953.048dc8eab1f7f07e4bf35aab@kernel.org \
--to=mhiramat@kernel.org \
--cc=dongml2@chinatelecom.cn \
--cc=herbert@gondor.apana.org.au \
--cc=linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
--cc=oliver.sang@intel.com \
--cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=tgraf@suug.ch \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).