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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Fuyu Zhao <zhaofuyu@vivo.com>
Cc: ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	martin.lau@linux.dev, song@kernel.org, yonghong.song@linux.dev,
	haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org, eddyz87@gmail.com,
	kpsingh@kernel.org, sdf@fomichev.me, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, shuah@kernel.org,
	willemb@google.com, kerneljasonxing@gmail.com,
	paul.chaignon@gmail.com, chen.dylane@linux.dev, memxor@gmail.com,
	martin.kelly@crowdstrike.com, ameryhung@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, yikai.lin@vivo.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next v1 0/3] bpf: Add BPF program type for overriding tracepoint probes
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 15:30:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250917153055.6fee814f@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250917072242.674528-1-zhaofuyu@vivo.com>

On Wed, 17 Sep 2025 15:22:39 +0800
Fuyu Zhao <zhaofuyu@vivo.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> This patchset introduces a new BPF program type that allows overriding
> a tracepoint probe function registered via register_trace_*.
> 
> Motivation
> ----------
> Tracepoint probe functions registered via register_trace_* in the kernel
> cannot be dynamically modified, changing a probe function requires recompiling
> the kernel and rebooting. Nor can BPF programs change an existing
> probe function.

I'm confused by what you mean by "tracepoint probe function"?

You mean the function callback that gets called via the "register_trace_*()"?

> 
> Overiding tracepoint supports a way to apply patches into kernel quickly
> (such as applying security ones), through predefined static tracepoints,
> without waiting for upstream integration.

This sounds way out of scope for tracepoints. Please provide a solid
example for this.

> 
> This patchset demonstrates the way to override probe functions by BPF program.
> 
> Overview
> --------
> This patchset adds BPF_PROG_TYPE_RAW_TRACEPOINT_OVERRIDE program type.
> When this type of BPF program attaches, it overrides the target tracepoint
> probe function.
> 
> And it also extends a new struct type "tracepoint_func_snapshot", which extends
> the tracepoint structure. It is used to record the original probe function
> registered by kernel after BPF program being attached and restore from it
> after detachment. 

The tracepoint structure exists for every tracepoint in the kernel. By
adding a pointer to it, you just increased the size of the tracepoint. I'm
already complaining that each tracepoint causes around 5K of memory
overhead, and I'd like to make it smaller.

-- Steve


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-17 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-17  7:22 [RFC PATCH bpf-next v1 0/3] bpf: Add BPF program type for overriding tracepoint probes Fuyu Zhao
2025-09-17  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next v1 1/3] bpf: Introduce BPF_PROG_TYPE_RAW_TRACEPOINT_OVERRIDE Fuyu Zhao
2025-09-17  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next v1 2/3] libbpf: Add support for BPF_PROG_TYPE_RAW_TRACEPOINT_OVERRIDE Fuyu Zhao
2025-09-17  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next v1 3/3] selftests/bpf: Add selftest for "raw_tp.o" Fuyu Zhao
2025-09-17 19:30 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2025-09-18 12:33   ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next v1 0/3] bpf: Add BPF program type for overriding tracepoint probes Fuyu Zhao
2025-09-18 15:24     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-19 12:54       ` Fuyu Zhao
2025-09-21 21:08       ` Chuck Wolber
2025-09-17 20:02 ` Song Liu
2025-09-18  8:05   ` Fuyu Zhao
2025-09-18  8:47     ` Jiri Olsa
2025-09-18 13:15       ` Fuyu Zhao
2025-09-18 15:32         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-19 13:00           ` Fuyu Zhao

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