From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux trace kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] tracing: Guard __DECLARE_TRACE() use of __DO_TRACE_CALL() with SRCU-fast
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 16:02:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260109160202.22975aa4@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c0df437-f6e5-47c6-aed5-f4cc26fe627a@efficios.com>
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 15:21:19 -0500
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> * preempt disable/enable pair: 1.1 ns
> * srcu-fast lock/unlock: 1.5 ns
>
> CONFIG_RCU_REF_SCALE_TEST=y
> * migrate disable/enable pair: 3.0 ns
> * calls to migrate disable/enable pair within noinline functions: 17.0 ns
>
> CONFIG_RCU_REF_SCALE_TEST=m
> * migrate disable/enable pair: 22.0 ns
OUCH! So migrate disable/enable has a much larger overhead when executed in
a module than in the kernel? This means all spin_locks() in modules
converted to mutexes in PREEMPT_RT are taking this hit!
It looks like it has to allow access to the rq->nr_pinned. There's a hack to
expose this part of the rq struct for in-kernel by the following:
kernel/sched/rq-offsets.c: DEFINE(RQ_nr_pinned, offsetof(struct rq, nr_pinned));
Then for the in-kernel code we have:
#define this_rq_raw() arch_raw_cpu_ptr(&runqueues)
#else
#define this_rq_raw() PERCPU_PTR(&runqueues)
#endif
#define this_rq_pinned() (*(unsigned int *)((void *)this_rq_raw() + RQ_nr_pinned))
Looking at the scheduler code, the rq->nr_pinned is referenced by a static
function with:
static inline bool rq_has_pinned_tasks(struct rq *rq)
{
return rq->nr_pinned;
}
Which is only referenced in hotplug code and a balance_push() path in load
balancing. Does this variable really need to be in the runqueue struct?
Why not just make it a per-cpu variable. Maybe call it cpu_nr_pinned_tasks,
and export that for all to use?
It will not only fix the discrepancy between the overhead of
migrate_disable/enable in modules vs in-kernel. But it also removes the
hack to expose a portion of the runqueue.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-09 21:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-09 3:05 [PATCH v5] tracing: Guard __DECLARE_TRACE() use of __DO_TRACE_CALL() with SRCU-fast Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 14:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 17:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 18:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-13 13:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-09 19:10 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 19:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 20:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 21:02 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2026-01-12 7:23 ` Menglong Dong
2026-01-12 15:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 15:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12 15:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-09 21:54 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 22:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 22:18 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 22:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 22:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 22:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-10 0:35 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-10 16:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-11 20:04 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-11 22:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-11 23:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-12 13:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12 17:19 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-13 14:23 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-13 23:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 19:19 ` Yonghong Song
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