From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, will@kernel.org, boqun@kernel.org,
longman@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
mark.rutland@arm.com, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] locking: add mutex_lock_nospin()
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 11:11:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260304101111.GQ606826@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbC1AHc2eZrzafz7ynrW7NFPrVmervCY_jjWsRTo0gBwQQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 05:37:31PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 5:03 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 03:46:49PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > Introduce mutex_lock_nospin(), a helper that disables optimistic spinning
> > > on the owner for specific heavy locks. This prevents long spinning times
> > > that can lead to latency spikes for other tasks on the same runqueue.
> >
> > This makes no sense; spinning stops on need_resched().
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> The condition to stop spinning on need_resched() relies on the mutex
> owner remaining unchanged. However, when multiple tasks contend for
> the same lock, the owner can change frequently. This creates a
> potential TOCTOU (Time of Check to Time of Use) issue.
>
> mutex_optimistic_spin
> owner = __mutex_trylock_or_owner(lock);
> mutex_spin_on_owner
> // the __mutex_owner(lock) might get a new owner.
> while (__mutex_owner(lock) == owner)
>
How do these new owners become the owner? Are they succeeding the
__mutex_trylock() that sits before mutex_optimistic_spin() and
effectively starving the spinner?
Something like the below would make a difference if that were so.
---
diff --git a/kernel/locking/mutex.c b/kernel/locking/mutex.c
index c867f6c15530..0796e77a8c3b 100644
--- a/kernel/locking/mutex.c
+++ b/kernel/locking/mutex.c
@@ -521,7 +521,7 @@ static __always_inline bool
mutex_optimistic_spin(struct mutex *lock, struct ww_acquire_ctx *ww_ctx,
struct mutex_waiter *waiter)
{
- return false;
+ return __mutex_trylock(lock);
}
#endif
@@ -614,8 +614,7 @@ __mutex_lock_common(struct mutex *lock, unsigned int state, unsigned int subclas
mutex_acquire_nest(&lock->dep_map, subclass, 0, nest_lock, ip);
trace_contention_begin(lock, LCB_F_MUTEX | LCB_F_SPIN);
- if (__mutex_trylock(lock) ||
- mutex_optimistic_spin(lock, ww_ctx, NULL)) {
+ if (mutex_optimistic_spin(lock, ww_ctx, NULL)) {
/* got the lock, yay! */
lock_acquired(&lock->dep_map, ip);
if (ww_ctx)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-04 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-04 7:46 [RFC PATCH 0/2] disable optimistic spinning for ftrace_lock Yafang Shao
2026-03-04 7:46 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] locking: add mutex_lock_nospin() Yafang Shao
2026-03-04 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-04 9:37 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-04 10:11 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-03-04 11:52 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-04 12:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-04 14:25 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-04 9:54 ` David Laight
2026-03-04 20:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-04 21:44 ` David Laight
2026-03-05 2:17 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-05 2:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-05 2:33 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-05 3:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-05 3:08 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-05 4:30 ` Waiman Long
2026-03-05 5:40 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-05 13:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-06 2:22 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-06 10:00 ` David Laight
2026-03-09 2:34 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-05 18:34 ` Waiman Long
2026-03-05 18:44 ` Waiman Long
2026-03-06 2:27 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-05 9:32 ` David Laight
2026-03-05 19:00 ` Waiman Long
2026-03-06 2:33 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-04 7:46 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] ftrace: disable optimistic spinning for ftrace_lock Yafang Shao
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