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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, will@kernel.org, boqun@kernel.org,
	longman@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] disable optimistic spinning for ftrace_lock
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2026 12:53:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260311125350.1d89341f@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260311115426.GN606826@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 12:54:26 +0100
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 07:52:47PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > Recently, we resolved a latency spike issue caused by concurrently running
> > bpftrace processes. The root cause was high contention on the ftrace_lock
> > due to optimistic spinning. We can optimize this by disabling optimistic
> > spinning for ftrace_lock.
> > 
> > While semaphores may present similar challenges, I'm not currently aware of
> > specific instances that exhibit this exact issue. Should we encounter
> > problematic semaphores in production workloads, we can address them at that
> > time.
> > 
> > PATCH #1: introduce slow_mutex_[un]lock to disable optimistic spinning
> > PATCH #2: add variant for rtmutex
> > PATCH #3: disable optimistic spinning for ftrace_lock
> >   
> 
> So I really utterly hate this.

Yep...
Adding the extra parameter is likely to have a measurable impact
on everything else.

The problematic path is obvious:        find_kallsyms_symbol+142
        module_address_lookup+104
        kallsyms_lookup_buildid+203
        kallsyms_lookup+20
        print_rec+64
        t_show+67
        seq_read_iter+709
        seq_read+165
        vfs_read+165
        ksys_read+103
        __x64_sys_read+25
        do_syscall_64+56
        entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+100

The code needs to drop the ftrace_lock across t_show.

Although there is a bigger issue of why on earth the code is reading the
list of filter functions at all - never mind all the time.
I'll do it by hand when debugging, but I'd have though anything using bpf
will know exactly where to add its hooks.

	David





  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-11 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-11 11:52 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] disable optimistic spinning for ftrace_lock Yafang Shao
2026-03-11 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] locking/mutex: Add slow path variants for lock/unlock Yafang Shao
2026-03-11 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] locking/rtmutex: " Yafang Shao
2026-03-11 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] ftrace: Disable optimistic spinning for ftrace_lock Yafang Shao
2026-03-11 11:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] disable " Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-11 11:55   ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-11 12:53   ` David Laight [this message]
2026-03-11 13:40     ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-11 17:07       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-11 17:39         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-11 19:05         ` David Laight
2026-03-12  8:06       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-03-12  8:57         ` Yafang Shao

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