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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v17 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 15:42:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260512074202.10253-1-lance.yang@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260511185817.686831-5-npache@redhat.com>


On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 12:58:04PM -0600, Nico Pache wrote:
>generalize the order of the __collapse_huge_page_* and collapse_max_*
>functions to support future mTHP collapse.
>
>The current mechanism for determining collapse with the
>khugepaged_max_ptes_none value is not designed with mTHP in mind. This
>raises a key design issue: if we support user defined max_pte_none values
>(even those scaled by order), a collapse of a lower order can introduces
>an feedback loop, or "creep", when max_ptes_none is set to a value greater
>than HPAGE_PMD_NR / 2. [1]
>
>With this configuration, a successful collapse to order N will populate
>enough pages to satisfy the collapse condition on order N+1 on the next
>scan. This leads to unnecessary work and memory churn.
>
>To fix this issue introduce a helper function that will limit mTHP
>collapse support to two max_ptes_none values, 0 and HPAGE_PMD_NR - 1.
>This effectively supports two modes: [2]
>
>- max_ptes_none=0: never collapses if it encounters an empty PTE or a PTE
>  that maps the shared zeropage. Consequently, no memory bloat.
>- max_ptes_none=511 (on 4k pagesz): Always collapse to the highest
>  available mTHP order.
>
>This removes the possiblilty of "creep", while not modifying any uAPI
>expectations. A warning will be emitted if any non-supported
>max_ptes_none value is configured with mTHP enabled.
>
>mTHP collapse will not honor the khugepaged_max_ptes_shared or
>khugepaged_max_ptes_swap parameters, and will fail if it encounters a
>shared or swapped entry.
>
>No functional changes in this patch; however it defines future behavior
>for mTHP collapse.
>
>[1] - https://lore.kernel.org/all/e46ab3ab-a3d7-4fb7-9970-d0704bd5d05a@arm.com
>[2] - https://lore.kernel.org/all/37375ace-5601-4d6c-9dac-d1c8268698e9@redhat.com
>
>Co-developed-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
>---
> include/trace/events/huge_memory.h |   3 +-
> mm/khugepaged.c                    | 117 ++++++++++++++++++++---------
> 2 files changed, 85 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-)
>
>diff --git a/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h b/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>index bcdc57eea270..443e0bd13fdb 100644
>--- a/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>+++ b/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>@@ -39,7 +39,8 @@
> 	EM( SCAN_STORE_FAILED,		"store_failed")			\
> 	EM( SCAN_COPY_MC,		"copy_poisoned_page")		\
> 	EM( SCAN_PAGE_FILLED,		"page_filled")			\
>-	EMe(SCAN_PAGE_DIRTY_OR_WRITEBACK, "page_dirty_or_writeback")
>+	EM(SCAN_PAGE_DIRTY_OR_WRITEBACK, "page_dirty_or_writeback")	\
>+	EMe(SCAN_INVALID_PTES_NONE,	"invalid_ptes_none")
> 
> #undef EM
> #undef EMe
>diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>index f68853b3caa7..27465161fa6d 100644
>--- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>+++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>@@ -61,6 +61,7 @@ enum scan_result {
> 	SCAN_COPY_MC,
> 	SCAN_PAGE_FILLED,
> 	SCAN_PAGE_DIRTY_OR_WRITEBACK,
>+	SCAN_INVALID_PTES_NONE,
> };
> 
> #define CREATE_TRACE_POINTS
>@@ -353,37 +354,60 @@ static bool pte_none_or_zero(pte_t pte)
>  * PTEs for the given collapse operation.
>  * @cc: The collapse control struct
>  * @vma: The vma to check for userfaultfd
>+ * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>  *
>  * Return: Maximum number of none-page or zero-page PTEs allowed for the
>  * collapse operation.
>  */
>-static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_none(struct collapse_control *cc,
>-		struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>+static int collapse_max_ptes_none(struct collapse_control *cc,
>+		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned int order)
> {
>+	unsigned int max_ptes_none = khugepaged_max_ptes_none;
> 	// If the vma is userfaultfd-armed, allow no none-page or zero-page PTEs.

One thing I still want to call out: kernel code usually uses C-style
comments :)

> 	if (vma && userfaultfd_armed(vma))
> 		return 0;
> 	// for MADV_COLLAPSE, allow any none-page or zero-page PTEs.
> 	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
> 		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
>-	// For all other cases repect the user defined maximum.
>-	return khugepaged_max_ptes_none;
>+	// for PMD collapse, respect the user defined maximum.
>+	if (is_pmd_order(order))
>+		return max_ptes_none;
>+	/* Zero/non-present collapse disabled. */
>+	if (!max_ptes_none)
>+		return 0;
>+	// for mTHP collapse with the sysctl value set to KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT,
>+	// scale the maximum number of PTEs to the order of the collapse.
>+	if (max_ptes_none == KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT)
>+		return (1 << order) - 1;
>+
>+	// We currently only support max_ptes_none values of 0 or KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT.
>+	// Emit a warning and return -EINVAL.
>+	pr_warn_once("mTHP collapse only supports max_ptes_none values of 0 or %u\n",
>+		      KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT);

Maybe fallback to 0 instead, as David suggested earlier?

max_ptes_none is mostly legacy PMD THP behavior. mTHP is new, and any
intermediate value in (0, KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT) would implicitly
disable it :(

Treating those values as 0 feels like the least surprising behavior,
IMHO. It also gives mTHP a cleaner staring point, rather than carry over
all the old PMD knob semantics :)

Otherwise, LGTM!
Reviewed-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>

>+	return -EINVAL;
> }
> 
> /**
>  * collapse_max_ptes_shared - Calculate maximum allowed PTEs that map shared
>  * anonymous pages for the given collapse operation.
>  * @cc: The collapse control struct
>+ * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>  *
>  * Return: Maximum number of PTEs that map shared anonymous pages for the
>  * collapse operation
>  */
>-static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_shared(struct collapse_control *cc)
>+static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_shared(struct collapse_control *cc,
>+		unsigned int order)
> {
> 	// for MADV_COLLAPSE, do not restrict the number of PTEs that map shared
> 	// anonymous pages.
> 	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
> 		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
>+	// for mTHP collapse do not allow collapsing anonymous memory pages that
>+	// are shared between processes.
>+	if (!is_pmd_order(order))
>+		return 0;
>+	// for PMD collapse, respect the user defined maximum.
> 	return khugepaged_max_ptes_shared;
> }
> 
>@@ -391,16 +415,22 @@ static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_shared(struct collapse_control *cc)
>  * collapse_max_ptes_swap - Calculate the maximum allowed non-present PTEs or the
>  * maximum allowed non-present pagecache entries for the given collapse operation.
>  * @cc: The collapse control struct
>+ * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>  *
>  * Return: Maximum number of non-present PTEs or the maximum allowed non-present
>  * pagecache entries for the collapse operation.
>  */
>-static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_swap(struct collapse_control *cc)
>+static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_swap(struct collapse_control *cc,
>+		unsigned int order)
> {
> 	// for MADV_COLLAPSE, do not restrict the number PTEs entries or
> 	// pagecache entries that are non-present.
> 	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
> 		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
>+	// for mTHP collapse do not allow any non-present PTEs or pagecache entries.
>+	if (!is_pmd_order(order))
>+		return 0;
>+	// for PMD collapse, respect the user defined maximum.
> 	return khugepaged_max_ptes_swap;
> }
> 
>@@ -594,18 +624,22 @@ static void release_pte_pages(pte_t *pte, pte_t *_pte,
> 
> static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> 		unsigned long start_addr, pte_t *pte, struct collapse_control *cc,
>-		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>+		unsigned int order, struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> {
>+	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
> 	struct page *page = NULL;
> 	struct folio *folio = NULL;
> 	unsigned long addr = start_addr;
> 	pte_t *_pte;
> 	int none_or_zero = 0, shared = 0, referenced = 0;
> 	enum scan_result result = SCAN_FAIL;
>-	unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma);
>-	unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc);
>+	int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma, order);
>+	unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc, order);
>+
>+	if (max_ptes_none < 0)
>+		return SCAN_INVALID_PTES_NONE;
> 
>-	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR;
>+	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + nr_pages;
> 	     _pte++, addr += PAGE_SIZE) {
> 		pte_t pteval = ptep_get(_pte);
> 		if (pte_none_or_zero(pteval)) {
>@@ -738,18 +772,18 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> }
> 
> static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte_t *pte,
>-						struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>-						unsigned long address,
>-						spinlock_t *ptl,
>-						struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>+		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long address,
>+		spinlock_t *ptl, unsigned int order,
>+		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> {
>-	unsigned long end = address + HPAGE_PMD_SIZE;
>+	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
>+	unsigned long end = address + (PAGE_SIZE << order);
> 	struct folio *src, *tmp;
> 	pte_t pteval;
> 	pte_t *_pte;
> 	unsigned int nr_ptes;
> 
>-	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR; _pte += nr_ptes,
>+	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + nr_pages; _pte += nr_ptes,
> 	     address += nr_ptes * PAGE_SIZE) {
> 		nr_ptes = 1;
> 		pteval = ptep_get(_pte);
>@@ -802,11 +836,10 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte_t *pte,
> }
> 
> static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
>-					     pmd_t *pmd,
>-					     pmd_t orig_pmd,
>-					     struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>-					     struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>+		pmd_t *pmd, pmd_t orig_pmd, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>+		unsigned int order, struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> {
>+	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
> 	spinlock_t *pmd_ptl;
> 
> 	/*
>@@ -822,7 +855,7 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
> 	 * Release both raw and compound pages isolated
> 	 * in __collapse_huge_page_isolate.
> 	 */
>-	release_pte_pages(pte, pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR, compound_pagelist);
>+	release_pte_pages(pte, pte + nr_pages, compound_pagelist);
> }
> 
> /*
>@@ -842,16 +875,17 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
>  */
> static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte_t *pte, struct folio *folio,
> 		pmd_t *pmd, pmd_t orig_pmd, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>-		unsigned long address, spinlock_t *ptl,
>+		unsigned long address, spinlock_t *ptl, unsigned int order,
> 		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> {
>+	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
> 	unsigned int i;
> 	enum scan_result result = SCAN_SUCCEED;
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * Copying pages' contents is subject to memory poison at any iteration.
> 	 */
>-	for (i = 0; i < HPAGE_PMD_NR; i++) {
>+	for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++) {
> 		pte_t pteval = ptep_get(pte + i);
> 		struct page *page = folio_page(folio, i);
> 		unsigned long src_addr = address + i * PAGE_SIZE;
>@@ -870,10 +904,10 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte_t *pte, struct folio *foli
> 
> 	if (likely(result == SCAN_SUCCEED))
> 		__collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte, vma, address, ptl,
>-						    compound_pagelist);
>+						    order, compound_pagelist);
> 	else
> 		__collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte, pmd, orig_pmd, vma,
>-						 compound_pagelist);
>+						 order, compound_pagelist);
> 
> 	return result;
> }
>@@ -1044,12 +1078,12 @@ static enum scan_result check_pmd_still_valid(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  * Returns result: if not SCAN_SUCCEED, mmap_lock has been released.
>  */
> static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct *mm,
>-		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start_addr, pmd_t *pmd,
>-		int referenced)
>+		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start_addr,
>+		pmd_t *pmd, int referenced, unsigned int order)
> {
> 	int swapped_in = 0;
> 	vm_fault_t ret = 0;
>-	unsigned long addr, end = start_addr + (HPAGE_PMD_NR * PAGE_SIZE);
>+	unsigned long addr, end = start_addr + (PAGE_SIZE << order);
> 	enum scan_result result;
> 	pte_t *pte = NULL;
> 	spinlock_t *ptl;
>@@ -1081,6 +1115,19 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct *mm,
> 		    pte_present(vmf.orig_pte))
> 			continue;
> 
>+		/*
>+		 * TODO: Support swapin without leading to further mTHP
>+		 * collapses. Currently bringing in new pages via swapin may
>+		 * cause a future higher order collapse on a rescan of the same
>+		 * range.
>+		 */
>+		if (!is_pmd_order(order)) {
>+			pte_unmap(pte);
>+			mmap_read_unlock(mm);
>+			result = SCAN_EXCEED_SWAP_PTE;
>+			goto out;
>+		}
>+
> 		vmf.pte = pte;
> 		vmf.ptl = ptl;
> 		ret = do_swap_page(&vmf);
>@@ -1200,7 +1247,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
> 		 * that case.  Continuing to collapse causes inconsistency.
> 		 */
> 		result = __collapse_huge_page_swapin(mm, vma, address, pmd,
>-						     referenced);
>+						     referenced, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> 		if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
> 			goto out_nolock;
> 	}
>@@ -1248,6 +1295,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
> 	pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, &_pmd, address, &pte_ptl);
> 	if (pte) {
> 		result = __collapse_huge_page_isolate(vma, address, pte, cc,
>+						      HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
> 						      &compound_pagelist);
> 		spin_unlock(pte_ptl);
> 	} else {
>@@ -1278,6 +1326,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
> 
> 	result = __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte, folio, pmd, _pmd,
> 					   vma, address, pte_ptl,
>+					   HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
> 					   &compound_pagelist);
> 	pte_unmap(pte);
> 	if (unlikely(result != SCAN_SUCCEED))
>@@ -1313,9 +1362,9 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_scan_pmd(struct mm_struct *mm,
> 		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start_addr,
> 		bool *lock_dropped, struct collapse_control *cc)
> {
>-	const unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma);
>-	const unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc);
>-	const unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc);
>+	const int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>+	const unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>+	const unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> 	pmd_t *pmd;
> 	pte_t *pte, *_pte;
> 	int none_or_zero = 0, shared = 0, referenced = 0;
>@@ -2369,8 +2418,8 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_scan_file(struct mm_struct *mm,
> 		unsigned long addr, struct file *file, pgoff_t start,
> 		struct collapse_control *cc)
> {
>-	const unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, NULL);
>-	const unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc);
>+	const int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, NULL, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>+	const unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> 	struct folio *folio = NULL;
> 	struct address_space *mapping = file->f_mapping;
> 	XA_STATE(xas, &mapping->i_pages, start);
>-- 
>2.54.0
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-12  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-11 18:58 [PATCH mm-unstable v17 00/14] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for " Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-12  4:44   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-12  7:29   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-12  7:42   ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-05-12  7:42   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-12 15:44   ` Wei Yang
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-11 21:04 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 00/14] khugepaged: mTHP support Andrew Morton

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