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From: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
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	"Kaitao Cheng" <chengkaitao@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] list: Add mutable iterator variants
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:14:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <351a6b67-b394-4c58-aee2-88b6c8089ad5@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260622094242.64531b9a@pumpkin>



在 2026/6/22 16:42, David Laight 写道:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:05:31 +0800
> Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev> wrote:
> 
>> From: Kaitao Cheng <chengkaitao@kylinos.cn>
>>
>> The list_for_each*_safe() helpers are used when the loop body may
>> remove the current entry.  Their API exposes the temporary cursor at
>> every call site, even though most users only need it for the iterator
>> implementation and never reference it in the loop body.
>>
>> Add *_mutable() variants for list and hlist iteration.  The new helpers
>> support both forms: callers may keep passing an explicit temporary cursor
>> when they need to inspect or reset it, or omit it and let the helper use
>> a unique internal cursor.
> 
> I'm not really sure 'mutable' means anything either.
> It is possible to make it valid for the loop body (or even other threads)
> to delete arbitrary list items - but that needs significant extra overheads.
> 
> It might be worth doing something that doesn't need the extra variable,
> but there is little point doing all the churn just to rename things.
> 
>>
>> This makes call sites that only mutate the list through the current entry
>> less noisy, while keeping the existing *_safe() helpers available for
>> compatibility.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Kaitao Cheng <chengkaitao@kylinos.cn>
>> ---
>>  include/linux/list.h | 269 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>>  1 file changed, 231 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/list.h b/include/linux/list.h
>> index 09d979976b3b..1081def7cea9 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/list.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/list.h
>> @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
>>  #include <linux/stddef.h>
>>  #include <linux/poison.h>
>>  #include <linux/const.h>
>> +#include <linux/args.h>
>>  
>>  #include <asm/barrier.h>
>>  
>> @@ -763,28 +764,72 @@ static inline void list_splice_tail_init(struct list_head *list,
>>  #define list_for_each_prev(pos, head) \
>>  	for (pos = (head)->prev; !list_is_head(pos, (head)); pos = pos->prev)
>>  
>> -/**
>> - * list_for_each_safe - iterate over a list safe against removal of list entry
>> - * @pos:	the &struct list_head to use as a loop cursor.
>> - * @n:		another &struct list_head to use as temporary storage
>> - * @head:	the head for your list.
>> +/*
>> + * list_for_each_safe is an old interface, use list_for_each_mutable instead.
>>   */
>>  #define list_for_each_safe(pos, n, head) \
>>  	for (pos = (head)->next, n = pos->next; \
>>  	     !list_is_head(pos, (head)); \
>>  	     pos = n, n = pos->next)
>>  
>> +#define __list_for_each_mutable_internal(pos, tmp, head)		\
>> +	for (typeof(pos) tmp = (pos = (head)->next)->next;		\
> 
> Use auto
> 
>> +	     !list_is_head(pos, (head));				\
>> +	     pos = tmp, tmp = pos->next)
>> +
>> +#define __list_for_each_mutable1(pos, head)				\
>> +	__list_for_each_mutable_internal(pos, __UNIQUE_ID(next), head)
>> +
>> +#define __list_for_each_mutable2(pos, next, head)			\
>> +	list_for_each_safe(pos, next, head)
>> +
>>  /**
>> - * list_for_each_prev_safe - iterate over a list backwards safe against removal of list entry
>> + * list_for_each_mutable - iterate over a list safe against entry removal
>>   * @pos:	the &struct list_head to use as a loop cursor.
>> - * @n:		another &struct list_head to use as temporary storage
>> - * @head:	the head for your list.
>> + * @...:	either (head) or (next, head)
>> + *
>> + * next:	another &struct list_head to use as optional temporary storage.
>> + *		The temporary cursor is internal unless explicitly supplied by
>> + *		the caller.
>> + * head:	the head for your list.
>> + */
>> +#define list_for_each_mutable(pos, ...)					\
>> +	CONCATENATE(__list_for_each_mutable, COUNT_ARGS(__VA_ARGS__))	\
>> +		(pos, __VA_ARGS__)
> 
> The variable argument count logic really just slows down compilation.
> Maybe there aren't enough copies of this code to make that significant.
> But just because you can do it doesn't mean it is a gooD idea.
> I'm also not sure it really adds anything to the readability.
> 
> And, it you are going to make the middle argument optional there is
> no need to change the macro name.

Christian König and Jani Nikula also disagree with the variadic-argument
implementation approach. If we abandon that method, it means we will
inevitably need to add some new macros. If mutable is not a good name,
suggestions for better alternatives would be welcome; coming up with a
suitable name is indeed rather tricky.

-- 
Thanks
Kaitao Cheng


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-24 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-22  4:05 [PATCH v3 0/7] Prepare mutable list iterators to cache cursor state Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-22  4:05 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] list: Add mutable iterator variants Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-22  8:42   ` David Laight
2026-06-24 13:14     ` Kaitao Cheng [this message]
2026-06-24 13:23       ` Christian König
2026-06-24 14:23         ` David Laight
2026-06-22  8:51   ` Christian König
2026-06-22  4:05 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] llist: " Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] kernel: Use mutable list iterators Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-22  5:22   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-06-22 19:03   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-06-22  5:28 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Prepare mutable list iterators to cache cursor state Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-22  6:15   ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-22 10:46     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-06-24 12:29       ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-22 11:27   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-24 12:58     ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-22  8:37 ` Jani Nikula
2026-06-24 13:05   ` Kaitao Cheng

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