From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>, Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/15] khugepaged: mTHP support
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:47:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43f42d9d-f814-4b54-91a6-3073f7c7cedf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ppzgohmkll7dbf2aiwhw7f4spf6kxjtwwe3djkx26pwy4ekrnd@mgeantq5sn2z>
On 12.09.25 14:19, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 09:27:55PM -0600, Nico Pache wrote:
>> The following series provides khugepaged with the capability to collapse
>> anonymous memory regions to mTHPs.
>>
>> To achieve this we generalize the khugepaged functions to no longer depend
>> on PMD_ORDER. Then during the PMD scan, we use a bitmap to track individual
>> pages that are occupied (!none/zero). After the PMD scan is done, we do
>> binary recursion on the bitmap to find the optimal mTHP sizes for the PMD
>> range. The restriction on max_ptes_none is removed during the scan, to make
>> sure we account for the whole PMD range. When no mTHP size is enabled, the
>> legacy behavior of khugepaged is maintained. max_ptes_none will be scaled
>> by the attempted collapse order to determine how full a mTHP must be to be
>> eligible for the collapse to occur. If a mTHP collapse is attempted, but
>> contains swapped out, or shared pages, we don't perform the collapse. It is
>> now also possible to collapse to mTHPs without requiring the PMD THP size
>> to be enabled.
>>
>> When enabling (m)THP sizes, if max_ptes_none >= HPAGE_PMD_NR/2 (255 on
>> 4K page size), it will be automatically capped to HPAGE_PMD_NR/2 - 1 for
>> mTHP collapses to prevent collapse "creep" behavior. This prevents
>> constantly promoting mTHPs to the next available size, which would occur
>> because a collapse introduces more non-zero pages that would satisfy the
>> promotion condition on subsequent scans.
>
> Hm. Maybe instead of capping at HPAGE_PMD_NR/2 - 1 we can count
> all-zeros 4k as none_or_zero? It mirrors the logic of shrinker.
BTW, I thought further about this and I agree: if we count zero-filled
pages towards none_or_zero one we can avoid the "creep" problem.
The scanning-for-zero part is rather nasty, though.
--
Cheers
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-12 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-12 3:27 [PATCH v11 00/15] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:27 ` [PATCH v11 01/15] khugepaged: rename hpage_collapse_* to collapse_* Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:27 ` [PATCH v11 02/15] introduce collapse_single_pmd to unify khugepaged and madvise_collapse Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:27 ` [PATCH v11 03/15] khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:27 ` [PATCH v11 04/15] khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 05/15] khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 06/15] khugepaged: introduce collapse_max_ptes_none helper function Nico Pache
2025-09-12 13:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 23:26 ` Nico Pache
2025-09-15 10:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 07/15] khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 08/15] khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 09/15] khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2025-09-12 9:35 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 10/15] khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 11/15] khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2025-09-12 9:24 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 12/15] khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 13/15] khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 14/15] khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2025-09-12 3:28 ` [PATCH v11 15/15] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2025-09-12 8:43 ` [PATCH v11 00/15] khugepaged: mTHP support Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 12:19 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-12 12:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 13:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-12 13:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 14:01 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 15:35 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-09-12 15:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 15:15 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-09-12 15:38 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-12 15:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 15:44 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-12 15:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 13:43 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-15 14:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 23:31 ` Nico Pache
2025-09-15 9:22 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-15 10:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 11:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 11:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 11:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 12:16 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-15 10:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 11:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 11:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 11:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 11:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 11:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 11:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 12:01 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-15 12:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 11:41 ` Nico Pache
2025-09-15 12:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 13:47 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-12 14:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 14:35 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-12 14:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 15:41 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-12 15:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 15:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 17:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 18:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-13 0:28 ` Nico Pache
2025-09-15 10:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-13 0:18 ` Nico Pache
2025-09-12 23:35 ` Nico Pache
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