From: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next] trace: tcp: Add tracepoint for tcp_cwnd_reduction()
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 11:02:08 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <453fbdbc-1843-498b-9a1c-8c83e7e244ed@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250122095604.3c93bc93@gandalf.local.home>
On 1/22/25 6:56 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 01:39:42 -0800
> Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org> wrote:
>
>> Right, DECLARE_TRACE would solve my current problem, but, a056a5bed7fa
>> ("sched/debug: Export the newly added tracepoints") says "BPF doesn't
>> have infrastructure to access these bare tracepoints either.".
>>
>> Does BPF know how to attach to this bare tracepointers now?
>>
>> On the other side, it seems real tracepoints is getting more pervasive?
>> So, this current approach might be OK also?
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20250118033723.GV1977892@ZenIV/T/#m4c2fb2d904e839b34800daf8578dff0b9abd69a0
> Thanks for the pointer. I didn't know this discussion was going on. I just
> asked to attend if this gets accepted. I'm only a 6 hour drive from
> Montreal anyway.
>
>>> You can see its use in include/trace/events/sched.h
>> I suppose I need to export the tracepointer with
>> EXPORT_TRACEPOINT_SYMBOL_GPL(), right?
> For modules to use them directly, yes. But there's other ways too.
>
>> I am trying to hack something as the following, but, I struggled to hook
>> BPF into it.
> Maybe you can use the iterator to search for the tracepoint.
>
> #include <linux/tracepoint.h>
>
> static void fct(struct tracepoint *tp, void *priv)
> {
> if (!tp->name || strcmp(tp->name, "<tracepoint_name>") != 0)
> return 0;
>
> // attach to tracepoint tp
> }
>
> [..]
> for_each_kernel_tracepoint(fct, NULL);
>
> This is how LTTng hooks to tracepoints.
The LTTng approach in the above needs a kernel module to enable and disable
the tracepoint and this is not a bpf-way to handle tracepoints.
So for bpf, we need a new UAPI to pass <tracepoint_name> from user
space to the kernel to attach to tracepoint tp since <tracepont_name> is not
available in trace_fs.
What is the criteria for a tracepoint to be a normal tp or a bare tp?
>
> -- Steve
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-22 19:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-20 12:02 [PATCH RFC net-next] trace: tcp: Add tracepoint for tcp_cwnd_reduction() Breno Leitao
2025-01-20 12:08 ` Jason Xing
2025-01-20 13:02 ` Breno Leitao
2025-01-20 13:06 ` Jason Xing
2025-01-20 13:20 ` Breno Leitao
2025-01-20 15:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-22 9:39 ` Breno Leitao
2025-01-22 14:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-22 19:02 ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2025-01-24 4:40 ` Yonghong Song
2025-01-24 15:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-24 17:35 ` Yonghong Song
2025-01-22 18:40 ` Yonghong Song
2025-01-21 1:15 ` Jason Xing
2025-01-21 1:22 ` Jason Xing
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