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From: Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	"live-patching@vger.kernel.org" <live-patching@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"morbo@google.com" <morbo@google.com>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Leizhen <thunder.leizhen@huawei.com>,
	"kees@kernel.org" <kees@kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	Matthew Maurer <mmaurer@google.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] tracing/kprobes: Use APIs that matches symbols without .XXX suffix
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 00:19:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BEEE3F89-717B-44A4-8571-68DA69408DA4@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240807090146.88b38c2fbd1cd8db683be22c@kernel.org>



> On Aug 6, 2024, at 5:01 PM, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 20:12:55 +0000
> Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2024, at 1:01 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:00:49 -0400
>>> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_LTO_CLANG) && !addr)
>>>>>>> + addr = kallsyms_lookup_name_without_suffix(trace_kprobe_symbol(tk));
>>>>>>> +    
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So you do the lookup twice if this is enabled?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why not just use "kallsyms_lookup_name_without_suffix()" the entire time,
>>>>>> and it should work just the same as "kallsyms_lookup_name()" if it's not
>>>>>> needed?    
>>>>> 
>>>>> We still want to give priority to full match. For example, we have:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [root@~]# grep c_next /proc/kallsyms
>>>>> ffffffff81419dc0 t c_next.llvm.7567888411731313343
>>>>> ffffffff81680600 t c_next
>>>>> ffffffff81854380 t c_next.llvm.14337844803752139461
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the goal is to explicitly trace c_next.llvm.7567888411731313343, the
>>>>> user can provide the full name. If we always match _without_suffix, all
>>>>> of the 3 will match to the first one. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does this make sense?  
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. Sorry, I missed the "&& !addr)" after the "IS_ENABLED()", which looked
>>>> like you did the command twice.
>>> 
>>> But that said, does this only have to be for llvm? Or should we do this for
>>> even gcc? As I believe gcc can give strange symbols too.
>> 
>> I think most of the issue comes with LTO, as LTO promotes local static
>> functions to global functions. IIUC, we don't have GCC built, LTO enabled
>> kernel yet.
>> 
>> In my GCC built, we have suffixes like ".constprop.0", ".part.0", ".isra.0", 
>> and ".isra.0.cold". We didn't do anything about these before this set. So I 
>> think we are OK not handling them now. We sure can enable it for GCC built
>> kernel in the future.
> 
> Hmm, I think it should be handled as it is. This means it should do as
> livepatch does. Since I expected user will check kallsyms if gets error,
> we should keep this as it is. (if a symbol has suffix, it should accept
> symbol with suffix, or user will get confused because they can not find
> which symbol is kprobed.)
> 
> Sorry about the conclusion (so I NAK this), but this is a good discussion. 

Do you mean we do not want patch 3/3, but would like to keep 1/3 and part 
of 2/3 (remove the _without_suffix APIs)? If this is the case, we are 
undoing the change by Sami in [1], and thus may break some tracing tools. 

Sami, could you please share your thoughts on this? 

If this works, I will send next version with 1/3 and part of 2/3. 

Thanks,
Song

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210408182843.1754385-8-samitolvanen@google.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-07  0:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-02 21:08 [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix kallsyms with CONFIG_LTO_CLANG Song Liu
2024-08-02 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] kallsyms: Do not cleanup .llvm.<hash> suffix before sorting symbols Song Liu
2024-08-02 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] kallsyms: Add APIs to match symbol without .XXXX suffix Song Liu
2024-08-05 13:45   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-05 17:46     ` Song Liu
2024-08-08 10:20   ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-08 15:13     ` Song Liu
2024-08-02 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] tracing/kprobes: Use APIs that matches symbols without .XXX suffix Song Liu
2024-08-06 18:44   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-06 19:35     ` Song Liu
2024-08-06 20:00       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-06 20:01         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-06 20:12           ` Song Liu
2024-08-07  0:01             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-07  0:19               ` Song Liu [this message]
2024-08-07 10:08                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-07 15:33                   ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-07 20:48                     ` Song Liu
2024-08-08  9:59                       ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-08 15:20                         ` Song Liu
2024-08-09 15:40                           ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-09 16:33                             ` Song Liu
2024-08-08 15:52                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-09  6:20                         ` Alessandro Carminati
2024-08-09 16:40                           ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 21:26                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-07 19:41                   ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 20:08                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-07 20:40                       ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 20:43                         ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 20:55                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-07 21:07                   ` Song Liu
2024-08-07 14:58             ` zhang warden
2024-08-07 19:46               ` Song Liu
2024-08-08  2:10                 ` zhang warden
2024-08-08  9:48                 ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-08 15:17                   ` Song Liu

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