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From: Leonardo Bras Soares Passos <leobras@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
	Zhen Lei <thunder.leizhen@huawei.com>,
	Chen Zhongjin <chenzhongjin@huawei.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	vschneid@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] smp: Add tracepoints for functions called with smp_call_function*()
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 12:53:44 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ6HWG44mSBBVK28rH4WyG4777iAnwWE5KqWaPemj8SSpohJ9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230503145900.GC1689514@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 12:17 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 12:45:08AM -0300, Leonardo Brįs wrote:
> > On Thu, 2023-04-06 at 11:55 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 04:57:18AM -0300, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > > > When running RT workloads in isolated CPUs, many cases of deadline misses
> > > > are caused by remote CPU requests such as smp_call_function*().
> > > >
> > > > For those cases, having the names of those functions running around the
> > > > deadline miss moment could help finding a target for the next improvements.
> > > >
> > > > Add tracepoints for acquiring the funtion name & argument before entry and
> > > > after exitting the called function.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > How are the patches queued there not sufficient?
> > >
> > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/log/?h=smp/core
> > >
> >
> > IIUC the last commits add tracepoints that are collected in the
> > requesting CPU, at the moment of scheduling the IPI, which are also useful in
> > some scenarios.
> >
> > On my scenario, it could help a little, since it makes possible to filter what
> > all other cpus are scheduling on the requested cpu. OTOH it could be also be
> > misleading, as the requested cpu could be running something that was scheduled
> > way before.
> >
> > The change I propose does exactly what my scenario need: track exactly which
> > function was running at given time in the requested CPU. With this info, we can
> > check which (if any) remotely requested function was running on given time
> > window.
>
> I was thinking you could simply (graph)-trace
> __flush_smp_call_function_queue() with a max_graph_depth or so (Steve
> says that ought to work).
>
> But even that might be too specific, your use case sounds more like what
> we have the irq-off latency tracer for, and that thing will immediately
> tell you what functions were being ran.
>
> > (An unrelated thing I just thought: We could even use the commits you pointed
> > together with my proposed change in order to measure how long does it take for a
> > requested function to run / complete in the requested cpu)
>
> I don't think you could actually do that; the send tracepoints Valentin
> added don't log the csd address, this means you cannot distinguish
> two CSDs with the same function send from different CPUs.
>
> To do this you'd need to add the csd address to the the ipi_send
> tracepoints and your own (possibly replacing info -- because I don't
> think that's too useful).

Sure, I will improve this in my patch.

You think I should rebase it on top of tip/smp/core in order to add it
to the set?

Thanks!
Leo

>
> Valentin -- is any of this something you'd also find useful?
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-03 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06  7:57 [RFC PATCH 1/1] smp: Add tracepoints for functions called with smp_call_function*() Leonardo Bras
2023-04-06  8:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-04-06  8:42   ` Leonardo Brás
2023-04-06 13:49     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-04-19  4:04       ` Leonardo Brás
2023-04-06  9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-19  3:45   ` Leonardo Brás
2023-05-03  4:23     ` Leonardo Brás
2023-05-03 14:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-03 15:53       ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos [this message]
2023-05-04 11:59       ` Valentin Schneider
2023-05-04 13:34         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-04 15:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-10 20:27         ` Leonardo Brás
2023-05-10 22:18           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2023-05-10 23:05             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2023-05-11  8:13           ` Valentin Schneider
2023-05-11  9:25             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos

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