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From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
To: Yonghong Song <yhs@meta.com>
Cc: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	 Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	 Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	 "kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	 "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	 "yonghong.song@linux.dev" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] trace: tcp: Add tracepoint for tcp_sendmsg()
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 20:23:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANn89i+zxMje+wbQzLKbSq_WKYnwGdMyAdStMm4GqkdJCvWPOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA3PR15MB5630CFBB36C212008DA8ACC7CAC02@SA3PR15MB5630.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 8:13 PM Yonghong Song <yhs@meta.com> wrote:
>
> > ________________________________________
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 7:24 PM Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Add a lightweight tracepoint to monitor TCP sendmsg operations, enabling
> >> the tracing of TCP messages being sent.
> >>
> >> Meta has been using BPF programs to monitor this function for years,
> >> indicating significant interest in observing this important
> >> functionality. Adding a proper tracepoint provides a stable API for all
> >> users who need visibility into TCP message transmission.
> >>
> >> The implementation uses DECLARE_TRACE instead of TRACE_EVENT to avoid
> >> creating unnecessary trace event infrastructure and tracefs exports,
> >> keeping the implementation minimal while stabilizing the API.
> >>
> >> Given that this patch creates a rawtracepoint, you could hook into it
> >> using regular tooling, like bpftrace, using regular rawtracepoint
> >> infrastructure, such as:
> >>
> >>         rawtracepoint:tcp_sendmsg_tp {
> >>                 ....
> >>         }
> >
> > I would expect tcp_sendmsg() being stable enough ?
> >
> > kprobe:tcp_sendmsg {
> > }
>
> In LTO mode, tcp_sendmsg could be inlined cross files. For example,
>
>   net/ipv4/tcp.c:
>        int tcp_sendmsg(struct sock *sk, struct msghdr *msg, size_t size)
>   net/ipv4/tcp_bpf.c:
>        ...
>       return tcp_sendmsg(sk, msg, size);
>   net/ipv6/af_inet6.c:
>        ...
>        return INDIRECT_CALL_2(prot->sendmsg, tcp_sendmsg, udpv6_sendmsg, ...)
>
> And this does happen in our production environment.

And we do not have a way to make the kprobe work even if LTO decided
to inline a function ?

This seems like a tracing or LTO issue, this could be addressed there
in a generic way
and avoid many other patches to work around this.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-24 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-24 18:24 [PATCH net-next] trace: tcp: Add tracepoint for tcp_sendmsg() Breno Leitao
2025-02-24 19:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-02-24 19:12   ` Yonghong Song
2025-02-24 19:23     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2025-02-25 10:58       ` Breno Leitao
2025-02-26 23:46       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-24 19:16   ` David Ahern
2025-02-26 16:10     ` Breno Leitao
2025-02-26 17:12       ` David Ahern
2025-02-26 18:18         ` Breno Leitao
2025-02-26 18:27           ` Eric Dumazet
2025-02-26 18:31             ` David Ahern
2025-02-27 16:26               ` Breno Leitao
2025-04-02 12:57               ` Breno Leitao
2025-04-02 14:11                 ` David Ahern
2025-04-02 16:01                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-03 11:38                   ` Breno Leitao
2025-02-26 22:46         ` Jason Xing

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