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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] tracing: ring-buffer: Have the ring buffer code do the vmap of physical memory
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 11:53:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-u3jW1zdqic9IKy@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjijTKpotANjhqoKrEFh=B=RLrfGWa7OFB2WJ9RU8jaaA@mail.gmail.com>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 at 18:40, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think 'pfn' was introduced as a name ong long ago because it was
> > > what the alpha architecture used in the VM documentation. It probably
> > > predates that too, but it's where I got it from, iirc.
> > >
> >
> > It is old, as I remember using it when I first started Linux kernel
> > development back in 1998.
> 
> So I did the alpha port in '95, but I meant that the 'page frame
> number' as a name may well have roots that go much further back. I
> only know it from the alpha architecture docs.
> 
> Google only seems to find the modern Linux use, but I wouldn't be
> surprised if the alpha architects got it from some much older use (I
> would suspect VMS).

*Technically*, for those of us with a weakness for Git archeology, the 
'PFN' term was first introduced in Linux with the MIPS port, which went 
upstream via Linux 1.1.45, released on 1994/04/06, and had this in 
include/asm-mips/mipsregs.h:

  +/*
  + * Compute a vpn/pfn entry for EntryHi register
  + */
  +#define VPN(addr,pagesizeshift) ((addr) & ~((1 << (pagesizeshift))-1))
  +#define PFN(addr,pagesizeshift) (((addr) & ((1 << (pagesizeshift))-1)) << 6)

... while your Alpha port went upstream via 1.1.57, released on 
1994/10/24, and the first mention of 'PFN' was in arch/alpha/mm/init.c, 
introduced as part of 1.1.82, released 1995/01/16, almost a year later:

  +unsigned long paging_init(unsigned long start_mem, unsigned long end_mem)
  ..
  +               unsigned long pfn, nr;
  +               if (cluster->usage & 1)
  +                       continue;
  +               pfn = cluster->start_pfn;
  +               nr = cluster->numpages;

So you don't appear to have dibs on the PFN name within Linux, although 
I suspect MIPS and Alpha had it from a similar background. :-)

By the way, some quick review feedback on that patch: there should be 
extra newlines after variable declarations - clearly the author is not 
a good kernel programm... oh, never mind.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-01  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-31 14:34 [PATCH v2 0/2] ring-buffer: Allow persistent memory to be user space mmapped Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 14:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] tracing: ring-buffer: Have the ring buffer code do the vmap of physical memory Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 16:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-31 17:39     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 19:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-31 20:58         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 21:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-31 23:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  0:09               ` Jann Horn
2025-04-01  1:02                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  1:28                   ` Jann Horn
2025-04-01  1:50                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  2:23                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-04-01  1:30                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  1:41                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  1:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  9:53                         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-04-01  0:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  0:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  0:30                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  0:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  0:49                     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  1:36                       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  1:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-03  5:59                     ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-03 16:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  9:56             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-01 15:11               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 15:26                 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-01 15:54                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 17:58                     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-03 16:45       ` Kees Cook
2025-04-03 16:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-03 17:15           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 14:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ring-buffer: Allow persistent ring buffers to be mmapped Steven Rostedt

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