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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] tracing: ring-buffer: Have the ring buffer code do the vmap of physical memory
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 18:26:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-wFszhJ_9o4dc8O@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250401111159.7632a0fa@gandalf.local.home>

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 11:11:59AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 12:56:31 +0300
> Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > > For example, using "mem=" on the kernel command line will literally
> > > limit the amount of RAM the kernel will use, and in doing so will
> > > limit the page allocations too.  
> > 
> > And using memmap=m$n on x86 creates a hole in System RAM that does not have
> > neither struct page nor kernel mappings and it is never considered RAM
> > anywhere in mm.
> 
> Hmm, when that is used, then we had better not "free" the buffer.
> 
> >  
> > > IOW, all of these kernel command line things are *subtle*.
> > > 
> > > Don't mis-use them by then making assumptions about how they work
> > > today (or how they will work tomorrow).  
> > 
> > I'd say it's better not to use them at all. They cause weirdness in memory
> > layout and also they are inconsistent in how architectures implement them.
> >  
> > > > Mike can correct me if I'm wrong, but the memory that was stolen was actual
> > > > memory returned by the system (E820 in x86). It reserves the memory before
> > > > the memory allocation reserves this memory. So what reserve_mem returns is
> > > > valid memory that can be used by memory allocator, but is currently just
> > > > "reserved" which means it wants to prevent the allocator from using it.  
> > > 
> > > That may indeed be true of reserve_mem.  
> > 
> > The reserve_mem behaves like any other early allocation, it has proper
> > struct pages (PG_Reserved) and it is mapped in the direct map so
> > phys_to_virt() will work on it.
> > 
> > As for mapping it to userspace, vm_iomap_memory() seems the best API to
> > use. It has all the alignment checks and will refuse to map ranges that are
> > not properly aligned and it will use vma information to create the right
> > mappings.
> >  
> 
> When using vmap() to get the virtual addresses (via the kmalloc_array() of
> struct pages), the vunmap() gives the memory back to the memory allocator:
> 
> ~# free
>                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
> Mem:         8185928      296676     7840576         920      148280     7889252
> Swap:        7812092           0     7812092
> ~# rmdir /sys/kernel/tracing/instances/boot_mapped/
> ~# free
>                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
> Mem:         8206404      290868     7866772         920      148384     7915536
> Swap:        7812092           0     7812092
> 
> With no issues.
> 
> But if I use vmap_page_range(), how do I give that back to the memory allocator?

But you don't need neither vmap() nor vmap_page_range() to have kernel page
tables for memory that you get from reserve_mem. It's already mapped and
plain phys_to_virt() gives you the virtual address you can use.
 
> Calling vunmap() on that memory gives me:
> 
>  1779.832484] ------------[ cut here ]------------
> [ 1779.834076] Trying to vunmap() nonexistent vm area (000000027c000000)
> [ 1779.835941] WARNING: CPU: 6 PID: 956 at mm/vmalloc.c:3413 vunmap+0x5a/0x60
> 
> What's the proper way to say: "I no longer need this physical memory I
> reserved, the kernel can now use it"?
 
free_reserved_area()

> -- Steve

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-01 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-31 14:34 [PATCH v2 0/2] ring-buffer: Allow persistent memory to be user space mmapped Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 14:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] tracing: ring-buffer: Have the ring buffer code do the vmap of physical memory Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 16:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-31 17:39     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 19:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-31 20:58         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 21:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-31 23:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  0:09               ` Jann Horn
2025-04-01  1:02                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  1:28                   ` Jann Horn
2025-04-01  1:50                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  2:23                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-04-01  1:30                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  1:41                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  1:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  9:53                         ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-01  0:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  0:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  0:30                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  0:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  0:49                     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  1:36                       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01  1:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-03  5:59                     ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-03 16:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01  9:56             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-01 15:11               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 15:26                 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-04-01 15:54                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 17:58                     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-03 16:45       ` Kees Cook
2025-04-03 16:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-03 17:15           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-03-31 14:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ring-buffer: Allow persistent ring buffers to be mmapped Steven Rostedt

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