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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	rppt@kernel.org, liam.howlett@oracle.com, surenb@google.com,
	kees@kernel.org, jannh@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm,procfs: allow read-only remote mm access under CAP_PERFMON
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 13:05:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7m9e-oR4rLIiDGm@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250127222114.1132392-1-andrii@kernel.org>


* Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org> wrote:

> It's very common for various tracing and profiling toolis to need to
> access /proc/PID/maps contents for stack symbolization needs to learn
> which shared libraries are mapped in memory, at which file offset, etc.
> Currently, access to /proc/PID/maps requires CAP_SYS_PTRACE (unless we
> are looking at data for our own process, which is a trivial case not too
> relevant for profilers use cases).
> 
> Unfortunately, CAP_SYS_PTRACE implies way more than just ability to
> discover memory layout of another process: it allows to fully control
> arbitrary other processes. This is problematic from security POV for
> applications that only need read-only /proc/PID/maps (and other similar
> read-only data) access, and in large production settings CAP_SYS_PTRACE
> is frowned upon even for the system-wide profilers.
> 
> On the other hand, it's already possible to access similar kind of
> information (and more) with just CAP_PERFMON capability. E.g., setting
> up PERF_RECORD_MMAP collection through perf_event_open() would give one
> similar information to what /proc/PID/maps provides.
> 
> CAP_PERFMON, together with CAP_BPF, is already a very common combination
> for system-wide profiling and observability application. As such, it's
> reasonable and convenient to be able to access /proc/PID/maps with
> CAP_PERFMON capabilities instead of CAP_SYS_PTRACE.
> 
> For procfs, these permissions are checked through common mm_access()
> helper, and so we augment that with cap_perfmon() check *only* if
> requested mode is PTRACE_MODE_READ. I.e., PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH wouldn't be
> permitted by CAP_PERFMON. So /proc/PID/mem, which uses
> PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH, won't be permitted by CAP_PERFMON, but
> /proc/PID/maps, /proc/PID/environ, and a bunch of other read-only
> contents will be allowable under CAP_PERFMON.
> 
> Besides procfs itself, mm_access() is used by process_madvise() and
> process_vm_{readv,writev}() syscalls. The former one uses
> PTRACE_MODE_READ to avoid leaking ASLR metadata, and as such CAP_PERFMON
> seems like a meaningful allowable capability as well.
> 
> process_vm_{readv,writev} currently assume PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH level of
> permissions (though for readv PTRACE_MODE_READ seems more reasonable,
> but that's outside the scope of this change), and as such won't be
> affected by this patch.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>

Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>

Thanks,

	Ingo

      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-22 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-27 22:21 [PATCH v2] mm,procfs: allow read-only remote mm access under CAP_PERFMON Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-28  0:41 ` Andrew Morton
2025-01-28  1:24   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-29  0:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-02-22 12:05 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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