From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Trace Kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracefs/eventfs: Use root and instance inodes as default ownership
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 19:26:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZZcGg5/SFSOUC9PX@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240104141517.0657b9d1@gandalf.local.home>
On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 02:15:17PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 18:25:02 +0000
> Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, the terms are clumsy as hell - POSIX ends up with
> > "file descriptor" (for numbers) vs. "file description" (for IO
> > channels), which is hard to distinguish when reading and just
> > as hard to distinguish when listening. "Opened file" (as IO
> > channel) vs. "file on disc" (as collection of data that might
> > be accessed via said channels) distinction on top of that also
> > doesn't help, to put it mildly. It's many decades too late to
> > do anything about, unfortunately. Pity the UNIX 101 students... ;-/
>
> Just so I understand this correctly.
>
> "file descriptor" - is just what maps to a specific inode.
No -- file descriptor is a number in fdtable that maps to a struct file.
> "file description" - is how the file is accessed (position in the file and
> flags associated to how it was opened)
file description is posix's awful name for struct file.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-04 19:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-04 1:32 [PATCH] tracefs/eventfs: Use root and instance inodes as default ownership Steven Rostedt
2024-01-04 1:48 ` Al Viro
2024-01-04 2:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-04 4:39 ` Al Viro
2024-01-04 15:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-04 18:25 ` Al Viro
2024-01-04 19:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-04 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-04 19:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-04 19:26 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2024-01-04 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-04 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-04 21:28 ` Al Viro
2024-01-04 19:03 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-04 1:59 ` Al Viro
2024-01-04 2:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-05 14:26 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-05 14:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-07 12:42 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-07 17:42 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-07 18:01 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-07 18:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-07 18:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-08 11:32 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-08 15:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-08 11:04 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-08 15:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-10 11:45 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-10 13:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-10 15:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-10 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-10 18:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-11 21:01 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-11 21:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-12 8:27 ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-12 13:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-12 14:22 ` Steven Rostedt
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