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From: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 06/35] mm: cma: Make CMA_ALLOC_SUCCESS/FAIL count the number of pages
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 13:27:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbpKyNVHfhf1-AAv@raptor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8cd39b48-7fb8-40b2-8d6c-e6fc2b48f86d@arm.com>

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 10:10:05AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/30/24 17:28, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:22:11AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>
> >> On 1/29/24 17:21, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 02:54:20PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/25/24 22:12, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> >>>>> The CMA_ALLOC_SUCCESS, respectively CMA_ALLOC_FAIL, are increased by one
> >>>>> after each cma_alloc() function call. This is done even though cma_alloc()
> >>>>> can allocate an arbitrary number of CMA pages. When looking at
> >>>>> /proc/vmstat, the number of successful (or failed) cma_alloc() calls
> >>>>> doesn't tell much with regards to how many CMA pages were allocated via
> >>>>> cma_alloc() versus via the page allocator (regular allocation request or
> >>>>> PCP lists refill).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This can also be rather confusing to a user who isn't familiar with the
> >>>>> code, since the unit of measurement for nr_free_cma is the number of pages,
> >>>>> but cma_alloc_success and cma_alloc_fail count the number of cma_alloc()
> >>>>> function calls.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let's make this consistent, and arguably more useful, by having
> >>>>> CMA_ALLOC_SUCCESS count the number of successfully allocated CMA pages, and
> >>>>> CMA_ALLOC_FAIL count the number of pages the cma_alloc() failed to
> >>>>> allocate.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For users that wish to track the number of cma_alloc() calls, there are
> >>>>> tracepoints for that already implemented.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>  mm/cma.c | 4 ++--
> >>>>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/mm/cma.c b/mm/cma.c
> >>>>> index f49c95f8ee37..dbf7fe8cb1bd 100644
> >>>>> --- a/mm/cma.c
> >>>>> +++ b/mm/cma.c
> >>>>> @@ -517,10 +517,10 @@ struct page *cma_alloc(struct cma *cma, unsigned long count,
> >>>>>  	pr_debug("%s(): returned %p\n", __func__, page);
> >>>>>  out:
> >>>>>  	if (page) {
> >>>>> -		count_vm_event(CMA_ALLOC_SUCCESS);
> >>>>> +		count_vm_events(CMA_ALLOC_SUCCESS, count);
> >>>>>  		cma_sysfs_account_success_pages(cma, count);
> >>>>>  	} else {
> >>>>> -		count_vm_event(CMA_ALLOC_FAIL);
> >>>>> +		count_vm_events(CMA_ALLOC_FAIL, count);
> >>>>>  		if (cma)
> >>>>>  			cma_sysfs_account_fail_pages(cma, count);
> >>>>>  	}
> >>>> Without getting into the merits of this patch - which is actually trying to do
> >>>> semantics change to /proc/vmstat, wondering how is this even related to this
> >>>> particular series ? If required this could be debated on it's on separately.
> >>> Having the number of CMA pages allocated and the number of CMA pages freed
> >>> allows someone to infer how many tagged pages are in use at a given time:
> >> That should not be done in CMA which is a generic multi purpose allocator.
> 
> > Ah, ok. Let me rephrase that: Having the number of CMA pages allocated, the
> > number of failed CMA page allocations and the number of freed CMA pages
> > allows someone to infer how many CMA pages are in use at a given time.
> > That's valuable information for software designers and system
> > administrators, as it allows them to tune the number of CMA pages available
> > in a system.
> > 
> > Or put another way: what would you consider to be more useful?  Knowing the
> > number of cma_alloc()/cma_release() calls, or knowing the number of pages
> > that cma_alloc()/cma_release() allocated or freed?
> 
> There is still value in knowing how many times cma_alloc() succeeded or failed
> regardless of the cumulative number pages involved over the time. Actually the
> count helps to understand how cma_alloc() performed overall as an allocator.
> 
> But on the cma_release() path there is no chances of failure apart from - just
> when the caller itself provides an wrong input. So there are no corresponding
> CMA_RELEASE_SUCCESS/CMA_RELEASE_FAIL vmstat counters in there - for a reason !
> 
> Coming back to CMA based pages being allocated and freed, there is already an
> interface via sysfs (CONFIG_CMA_SYSFS) which gets updated in cma_alloc() path
> via cma_sysfs_account_success_pages() and cma_sysfs_account_fail_pages().
> 
> #ls /sys/kernel/mm/cma/<name>
> alloc_pages_fail alloc_pages_success
> 
> Why these counters could not meet your requirements ? Also 'struct cma' can
> be updated to add an element 'nr_pages_freed' to be tracked in cma_release(),
> providing free pages count as well.
> 
> There are additional debug fs based elements (CONFIG_CMA_DEBUGFS) available.
> 
> #ls /sys/kernel/debug/cma/<name>
> alloc  base_pfn  bitmap  count  free  maxchunk  order_per_bit  used

Ok, I'll have a look at those, thank you for the suggestion.

Thanks,
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-31 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25 16:42 [PATCH RFC v3 00/35] Add support for arm64 MTE dynamic tag storage reuse Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 01/35] mm: page_alloc: Add gfp_flags parameter to arch_alloc_page() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  5:48   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:41     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  4:26       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:56         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 02/35] mm: page_alloc: Add an arch hook early in free_pages_prepare() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  8:19   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:42     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 03/35] mm: page_alloc: Add an arch hook to filter MIGRATE_CMA allocations Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  8:44   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:45     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 04/35] mm: page_alloc: Partially revert "mm: page_alloc: remove stale CMA guard code" Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  9:01   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:46     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  4:34       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:57         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  3:27           ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 05/35] mm: cma: Don't append newline when generating CMA area name Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  9:13   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:46     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 06/35] mm: cma: Make CMA_ALLOC_SUCCESS/FAIL count the number of pages Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  9:24   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:51     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  4:52       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:58         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  4:40           ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 13:27             ` Alexandru Elisei [this message]
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 07/35] mm: cma: Add CMA_RELEASE_{SUCCESS,FAIL} events Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  9:31   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:53     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  5:59       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 08/35] mm: cma: Introduce cma_alloc_range() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  5:20   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:35     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  6:24       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 14:18         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 09/35] mm: cma: Introduce cma_remove_mem() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  5:50   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:33     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31 13:19       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 13:48         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 10/35] mm: cma: Fast track allocating memory when the pages are free Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  9:18   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:34     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 11/35] mm: Allow an arch to hook into folio allocation when VMA is known Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-26 20:00   ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-01-29 11:59     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  9:55   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:34     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  6:53       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 12:22         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 12/35] mm: Call arch_swap_prepare_to_restore() before arch_swap_restore() Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01  3:30   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01 17:32     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 13/35] mm: memory: Introduce fault-on-access mechanism for pages Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01  5:52   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01 17:36     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 14/35] of: fdt: Return the region size in of_flat_dt_translate_address() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 15/35] of: fdt: Add of_flat_read_u32() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 16/35] KVM: arm64: Don't deny VM_PFNMAP VMAs when kvm_has_mte() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 17/35] arm64: mte: Rework naming for tag manipulation functions Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 18/35] arm64: mte: Rename __GFP_ZEROTAGS to __GFP_TAGGED Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 19/35] arm64: mte: Discover tag storage memory Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-26  8:50   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-26 17:01     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 20/35] arm64: mte: Add tag storage memory to CMA Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 21/35] arm64: mte: Disable dynamic tag storage management if HW KASAN is enabled Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 22/35] arm64: mte: Enable tag storage if CMA areas have been activated Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-02 22:30   ` Evgenii Stepanov
2024-02-05 16:30     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 23/35] arm64: mte: Try to reserve tag storage in arch_alloc_page() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  0:04   ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-01-30 11:38     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 24/35] arm64: mte: Perform CMOs for tag blocks Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 25/35] arm64: mte: Reserve tag block for the zero page Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 26/35] arm64: mte: Use fault-on-access to reserve missing tag storage Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 27/35] arm64: mte: Handle tag storage pages mapped in an MTE VMA Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 28/35] arm64: mte: swap: Handle tag restoring when missing tag storage Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-02  4:02   ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-02-02 14:56     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-03  1:32       ` Evgenii Stepanov
2024-02-03  1:52       ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 29/35] arm64: mte: copypage: " Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 30/35] arm64: mte: ptrace: Handle pages with " Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01  9:21   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01 17:38     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 31/35] khugepaged: arm64: Don't collapse MTE enabled VMAs Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01  8:12   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01 17:38     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 32/35] KVM: arm64: mte: Reserve tag storage for virtual machines with MTE Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 33/35] KVM: arm64: mte: Introduce VM_MTE_KVM VMA flag Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 34/35] arm64: mte: Enable dynamic tag storage management Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 35/35] HACK! arm64: dts: Add fake tag storage to fvp-base-revc.dts Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 17:01 ` [PATCH RFC v3 00/35] Add support for arm64 MTE dynamic tag storage reuse Steven Rostedt

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