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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [POC][RFC][PATCH 1/2] mm/x86: Add wildcard * option as memmap=nn*align:name
Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 17:57:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjJYV7ak5ApgNTBx@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202404151017.FC002AA5@keescook>

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 10:22:53AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 06:19:40PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 23:59:07 +0300
> > Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 04:41:24PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 07:11:56PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:  
> > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 15:23:07 -0700
> > > > > Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > > >   
> > > > > > Do we need to involve e820 at all? I think it might be possible to just
> > > > > > have pstore call request_mem_region() very early? Or does KASLR make
> > > > > > that unstable?  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeah, would that give the same physical memory each boot, and can we
> > > > > guarantee that KASLR will not map the kernel over the previous location?  
> > > > 
> > > > Hm, no, for physical memory it needs to get excluded very early, which
> > > > means e820.  
> > > 
> > > Whatever memory is reserved in arch/x86/kernel/e820.c, that happens after
> > > kaslr, so to begin with, a new memmap parameter should be also added to
> > > parse_memmap in arch/x86/boot/compressed/kaslr.c to ensure the same
> > > physical address will be available after KASLR.
> > 
> > But doesn't KASLR only affect virtual memory not physical memory?
> 
> KASLR for x86 (and other archs, like arm64) do both physical and virtual
> base randomization.
> 
> > This just makes sure the physical memory it finds will not be used by the
> > system. Then ramoops does the mapping via vmap() I believe, to get a
> > virtual address to access the physical address.
> 
> I was assuming, since you were in the e820 code, that it was
> manipulating that before KASLR chose a location. But if not, yeah, Mike
> is right -- you need to make sure this is getting done before
> decompress_kernel().

Right now kaslr can handle up to 4 memmap regions and parse_memmap() in
arch/x86/boot/compressed/kaslr.c should be updated for a new memmap type.

But I think it's better to add a new kernel parameter as I suggested in
another email and teach mem_avoid_memmap() in kaslr.c to deal with it, as
well as with crashkernel=size@offset, btw.
 
> -- 
> Kees Cook

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-01 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-09 21:02 [POC][RFC][PATCH 0/2] pstore/mm/x86: Add wildcard memmap to map pstore consistently Steven Rostedt
2024-04-09 21:02 ` [POC][RFC][PATCH 1/2] mm/x86: Add wildcard * option as memmap=nn*align:name Steven Rostedt
2024-04-09 22:23   ` Kees Cook
2024-04-09 23:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-04-09 23:41       ` Kees Cook
2024-04-12 20:59         ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-12 22:19           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-04-15 17:22             ` Kees Cook
2024-05-01 14:57               ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2024-05-06 10:38                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-05-08 23:23                   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-04-09 21:02 ` [POC][RFC][PATCH 2/2] pstore/ramoops: Add ramoops.mem_name= command line option Steven Rostedt
2024-04-09 22:18   ` Kees Cook
2024-04-09 23:14     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-04-09 21:23 ` [POC][RFC][PATCH 0/2] pstore/mm/x86: Add wildcard memmap to map pstore consistently Steven Rostedt
2024-04-09 22:19   ` Kees Cook
2024-04-09 22:25     ` Luck, Tony
2024-04-09 22:41       ` Joel Fernandes
2024-04-09 23:16       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-04-09 23:37       ` Kees Cook
2024-04-09 23:52         ` Luck, Tony
2024-04-11 19:11       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2024-04-11 19:40         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-04-12 12:17           ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2024-04-12 17:22             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-05-01 14:45               ` Mike Rapoport
2024-05-01 14:54                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-05-01 15:30                   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-05-01 16:09                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-05-01 16:11                       ` Mike Rapoport
2024-05-09  4:00                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-05-09 17:31                       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-05-09 20:24                         ` Mike Rapoport
2024-05-09 20:33                           ` Steven Rostedt

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