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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 15.09.25 13:23, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 01:14:32PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> On 15.09.25 13:02, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 12:52:03PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>> On 15.09.25 12:43, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 12:22:07PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> 0 -> ~100% used (~0% none) >>>>>> 1 -> ~50% used (~50% none) >>>>>> 2 -> ~25% used (~75% none) >>>>>> 3 -> ~12.5% used (~87.5% none) >>>>>> 4 -> ~11.25% used (~88,75% none) >>>>>> ... >>>>>> 10 -> ~0% used (~100% none) >>>>> >>>>> Oh and shouldn't this be inverted? >>>>> >>>>> 0 eagerness = we eat up all none PTE entries? Isn't that pretty eager? :P >>>>> 10 eagerness = we aren't eager to eat up none PTE entries at all? >>>>> >>>>> Or am I being dumb here? >>>> >>>> Good question. >>>> >>>> For swappiness it's: 0 -> no swap (conservative) >>>> >>>> So intuitively I assumed: 0 -> no pte_none (conservative) >>>> >>>> You're the native speaker, so you tell me :) >>> >>> To me this is about 'eagerness to consume empty PTE entries' so 10 is more >>> eager, 0 is not eager at all, i.e. inversion of what you suggest :) >> >> Just so we are on the same page: it is about "eagerness to collapse", right? >> >> Wouldn't a 0 mean "I am not eager, I will not waste any memory, I am very >> careful and bail out on any pte_none" vs. 10 meaning "I am very eager, I >> will collapse no matter what I find in the page table, waste as much memory >> as I want"? > > Yeah, this is my understanding of your scale, or is my understanding also > inverted? :) > > Right now it's: > > eagerness max_ptes_none > > 0 -> 511 > ... > 10 -> 0 > > Right? Just so we are on the same page, this is what I had: 0 -> ~100% used (~0% none) So "0" -> 0 pte_none or 512 used. (note the used vs. none) -- Cheers David / dhildenb