From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [90.155.50.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ED1334D3B3; Mon, 10 Nov 2025 14:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=90.155.50.34 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1762784273; cv=none; b=gYhdAtKZVGdhQMxiFfLNsxskEaLZUSft5+rUcE5UhlD1jlaW9RZIQSEi7IxRV/XwBwSiexoz3VxqWe0uVMNtokhfScvj0Tk5cIOuoSPYMX1p+ZuDR8hXbvDQ06cffzvfCMzYd7Sh5MGZJr4CkYAZE+6Apqs75ZFniFGuOj2XJbQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1762784273; c=relaxed/simple; bh=HBb3SJ5uKcYn9Er28YJ1af3cWeYwy7ykkfklbFTsbk8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=bYvLmqDB/cUnvk/wUNznBVUNxWnvs5p6EHfrDFENI8ZEdeaUy99qLCV0Qh3Gxg9YcHutX/ZKqLyogmHpEdgl00csV9XVrDgeENflv2JtIl9+5hzoG8SGAp2lfAKreZIqQYFBAtO9eNG19sbyyhh7sQwWXxplIhvh1JFh6ZR7Dqc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b=FK5/Drkh; arc=none smtp.client-ip=90.155.50.34 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="FK5/Drkh" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=W6YiZUPiMldDbZBiOiBNFbkvDbr2B7fQ67wc4kW4+s4=; b=FK5/DrkhPSNaY5Y1lv3Qbw3peA kHgYT7Z6hGlnUjTQ9CKx2OOfYddM6ZkFV1xofLnq3yeC45RN0EXvJ5nCIeZ52NPHja4WFu6WU3D7S fjmTYVL23H+18iIxjrS3Fo2MhxmBcn+T/nBf1XHVDVh7EaLtLHM2Uso44v2nzYNyGAKh4F9mf++uL yjaRujDRYXROsRcF0Q77LDkUHzomisnPSavyPOVGZv/MR+1FGGMZOHFw5aTOIf/Os3FH6YtEBntDH dE014QtcupcatIpKw2A0fvjK4eZf1RphHQdl9qcY2hV6Y99GTpK99uEsxvt2kLJaY8YiplIU4Q48g e9H795Ug==; Received: from willy by casper.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1vISi8-0000000H256-34vg; Mon, 10 Nov 2025 14:17:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 14:17:36 +0000 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Lorenzo Stoakes Cc: Shivank Garg , Andrew Morton , David Hildenbrand , Zi Yan , Baolin Wang , "Liam R . Howlett" , Nico Pache , Ryan Roberts , Dev Jain , Barry Song , Lance Yang , Steven Rostedt , Masami Hiramatsu , Mathieu Desnoyers , Zach O'Keefe , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Branden Moore Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/khugepaged: do synchronous writeback for MADV_COLLAPSE Message-ID: References: <20251110113254.77822-1-shivankg@amd.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 01:52:46PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 01:47:10PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 11:32:53AM +0000, Shivank Garg wrote: > > > When MADV_COLLAPSE is called on file-backed mappings (e.g., executable > > > text sections), the pages may still be dirty from recent writes. The > > > > That explanation derails my brain entirely. Text isn't writable! How > > can the pages be dirty and file-backed text? > > Because they just compiled it and it's not been written back to disk yet :) So we can avoid these patches simply by changing userspace to call fsync()? Cool!