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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Yury Norov (NVIDIA)" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Laight <david.laight@runbox.com>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@kernel.org>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 7/7] kernel.h: drop trace_printk.h
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2025 10:55:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aVOTbArAxmbT5LY9@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9833cb61-1ec5-4cc1-ad9d-3e07f3deff80@efficios.com>

On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 05:25:08PM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

...

> One possible compromise would be to move it to its own header file,
> and introduce a CONFIG_TRACE_PRINTK Kconfig option (default Y) that
> would surround an include from linux/kernel.h with a preprocessor
> conditional. But please make sure the default stays as it is today:
> include the trace printk header by default.

"by default" where exactly? The problem is that kernel.h is a total mess and
it's included in a lot of mysterious ways (indirectly), and in C you _must_
include a header anyway for a custom API, just define *which* one.

Based on the Steven's first replies I see a compromise in having it inside
printk.h. If you want to debug something with printf() (in general) the same
header should provide all species. Do you agree?

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-30  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-25 17:09 [PATCH v4 0/7] Unload linux/kernel.h Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] kernel.h: drop STACK_MAGIC macro Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] moduleparam: include required headers explicitly Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] kernel.h: move VERIFY_OCTAL_PERMISSIONS() to sysfs.h Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] kernel.h: include linux/instruction_pointer.h explicitly Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] tracing: Remove size parameter in __trace_puts() Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] tracing: move tracing declarations from kernel.h to a dedicated header Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] kernel.h: drop trace_printk.h Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-26 16:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-27 14:45     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-27 15:57       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-27 19:35         ` Yury Norov
2025-12-27 21:27           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-28 21:31     ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-29 16:17       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-29 16:41         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-12-29 17:19         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-29 22:25         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-30  8:55           ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-12-30 14:21             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-30 16:18               ` Yury Norov
2025-12-30 16:46                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-03  0:50         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-03 12:57           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-03 14:22             ` Yury Norov
2026-01-05  9:29               ` Jani Nikula
2026-01-03 15:36             ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-04  0:20               ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-27 14:50   ` Andy Shevchenko

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