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From: Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	 Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	 Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	 Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 "open list:SCHEDULER" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:TRACING" <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 acme@kernel.org, williams@redhat.com, gmonaco@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] tracing/preemptirq: Optimize preempt_disable/enable() tracepoint overhead
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 12:36:10 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abQsFM9tFPr3Mrtt@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260313090404.GK606826@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 10:04:04AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2026 at 02:19:15PM -0300, Wander Lairson Costa wrote:
> 
> > > That's significant bloat, for really very little gain. Realistically
> > > nobody is going to need these.
> > > 
> > 
> > Of course, I can't speak for others, but more than once I debugged issues
> > that those tracepoints had made my life far easier. Those cases convinced
> > me that such a feature would be worth it. But if you don't see
> > value and will reject the patches no matter what, nothing can be done,
> > and I will have to accept defeat.
> 
> If distros are going to enable this, I suppose I'm not going to stop
> this. But I do very much worry about the general bloat of things, there
> are a *LOT* of preempt_{dis,en}able() sites.
> 

We plan to enable these tracepoints in the RHEL kernel-rt to track
extended non-preemptible states that cause high latencies. These
issues occasionally surface in customer OpenShift deployments, where
deploying a custom debug kernel is highly impractical. Having these
tracepoints available in the distribution kernel would be handful for
debugging these production systems. That said, I expect enabling this
feature to be the exception rather than the rule — most distribution
kernels would leave it disabled.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-13 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-11 12:50 [PATCH v3 0/4] tracing/preemptirq: Optimize disabled tracepoint overhead Wander Lairson Costa
2026-03-11 12:50 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] tracing/preemptirq: Optimize preempt_disable/enable() " Wander Lairson Costa
2026-03-11 19:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-12 17:19     ` Wander Lairson Costa
2026-03-13  9:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-13 15:36         ` Wander Lairson Costa [this message]
2026-03-11 12:50 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] trace/preemptirq: make TRACE_PREEMPT_TOGGLE user-selectable Wander Lairson Costa
2026-03-11 12:50 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] trace/preemptirq: add TRACE_IRQFLAGS_TOGGLE Wander Lairson Costa
2026-03-11 12:50 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] trace/preemptirq: Implement trace_irqflags hooks Wander Lairson Costa
2026-03-11 19:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-11 19:48     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-11 19:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-11 20:07         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-11 20:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-11 23:16             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-12 17:09     ` Wander Lairson Costa

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