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From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
	Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	 Naoya Horiguchi <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	 Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 "Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/6] mm/memory-failure: surface unhandlable kernel pages as -ENOTRECOVERABLE
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2026 02:35:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiKXrovzrNN-gExm@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4b27467e-935f-5587-2f48-5a794c30a592@huawei.com>

On Wed, Jun 03, 2026 at 10:33:04AM +0800, Miaohe Lin wrote:
> On 2026/6/2 17:41, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> > On 6/2/26 05:08, Miaohe Lin wrote:
> >> On 2026/6/1 21:22, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >>> On 6/1/26 14:28, Miaohe Lin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your patch.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Once shake_page finds a lightweight range-based way to shrink slab, slab pages could be freed
> >>>> into buddy and above PageSlab test should be removed then. Maybe add a TODO or XXX here?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure but is it safe or a common way to test PageReserved, PageSlab,
> >>>> PageTable and PageLargeKmalloc without extra page refcnt?
> >>>
> >>> Checking typed pages in a racy fashion is fine (PageSlab, PageTable,
> >>> PageLargeKmalloc).
> >>
> >> Got it. Thanks.
> >>
> >>> Checking PageReserved in a racy fashion is fine as well. TESTPAGEFLAG() will
> >>> allow checking it on compound pages.
> >>
> >> It seems PageReserved is not intended to be set on compound pages. I see there are PF_NO_COMPOUND
> >> in its definition: PAGEFLAG(Reserved, reserved, PF_NO_COMPOUND).
> >>
> >>>
> >>> For PageLargeKmalloc, we would want to check the head page, though. The page
> >>> type is only stored for the head page.
> >>
> >> Maybe we should check the head page for PageSlab and PageTable too? alloc_slab_page only
> >> set PageSlab on the head page and __pagetable_ctor uses __folio_set_pgtable to set PageTable
> >> on folio.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> So maybe we want to lookup the compound head (if any) and perform the type
> >>> checks against that?
> >>
> >> Maybe we should or we might miss some pages that could have been handled. And
> >> if compound head is required, should we hold an extra page refcnt to guard against
> >> possible folio split race?
> > 
> > Races are fine. We might miss some pages, but that can happen on races either way.
> > 
> > 
> > I'd just do something like
> > 
> > if (PageReserved(page))
> > 	return true;
> > 
> > head = compound_head(page);
> 
> If @head is split just after compound_head. And then @head is freed into buddy and re-allocated as slab
> page while @page is still in the buddy. We would panic on this scene as @head is PageSlab. But we were
> supposed to successfully handle @page. Or am I miss something?

You're right that it is racy, but I think it is an acceptable race here.

For it to happen, the poisoned @page has to be a tail of a live compound page
at the time of the fault, and then -- in the few instructions between
compound_head() and the PageSlab(head) test -- that compound page has to be
split, the old head freed to buddy, and that head re-allocated as a slab page,
all while @page lands back in the buddy.  It cannot happen without concurrent
split/free/alloc activity in that exact window.

It is also worth noting the page in question genuinely took a unrecoverable ECC
error, and panic_on_unrecoverable_memory_failure is opt-in -- an operator who
enables it has explicitly chosen to crash rather than risk running on corrupted
memory.  Mis-attributing one such rare, genuinely-poisoned page as
unrecoverable is within that contract.

Thanks for the review and discussions,
--breno

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-05  9:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-27 14:06 [PATCH v8 0/6] mm/memory-failure: add panic option for unrecoverable pages Breno Leitao
2026-05-27 14:06 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] mm/memory-failure: drop dead error_states[] entry for reserved pages Breno Leitao
2026-05-27 14:06 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] mm/memory-failure: surface unhandlable kernel pages as -ENOTRECOVERABLE Breno Leitao
2026-06-01 12:28   ` Miaohe Lin
2026-06-01 13:22     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02  3:08       ` Miaohe Lin
2026-06-02  9:41         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03  2:33           ` Miaohe Lin
2026-06-05  9:35             ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2026-06-05  9:42               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-27 14:06 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] mm/memory-failure: report MF_MSG_KERNEL for unrecoverable kernel pages Breno Leitao
2026-06-01 13:24   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02  3:31   ` Miaohe Lin
2026-05-27 14:06 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] mm/memory-failure: add panic option for unrecoverable pages Breno Leitao
2026-06-02  7:05   ` Miaohe Lin
2026-06-05  9:37     ` Breno Leitao
2026-05-27 14:06 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] Documentation: document panic_on_unrecoverable_memory_failure sysctl Breno Leitao
2026-05-27 14:06 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] selftests/mm: add hwpoison-panic destructive test Breno Leitao
2026-05-27 19:39 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] mm/memory-failure: add panic option for unrecoverable pages Andrew Morton

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