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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@kernel.org>
To: Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/10] dma-buf: heaps: Add support for Tegra VPR
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 12:48:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoQ1lhZojzsSkWHQ@orome> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aoNDRTKCUkzd2n5G@google.com>

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2026 at 06:22:13PM +0100, Vincent Donnefort wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2026 at 02:56:05PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 07:25:20PM +0100, Vincent Donnefort wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 05:54:27PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > From: Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>
> > > > 
> > > > NVIDIA Tegra SoCs commonly define a Video-Protection-Region, which is a
> > > > region of memory dedicated to content-protected video decode and
> > > > playback. This memory cannot be accessed by the CPU and only certain
> > > > hardware devices have access to it.
> > > > 
> > > > Expose the VPR as a DMA heap so that applications and drivers can
> > > > allocate buffers from this region for use-cases that require this kind
> > > > of protected memory.
> > > > 
> > > > VPR has a few very critical peculiarities. First, it must be a single
> > > > contiguous region of memory (there is a single pair of registers that
> > > > set the base address and size of the region), which is configured by
> > > > calling back into the secure monitor. The memory region also needs to
> > > > quite large for some use-cases because it needs to fit multiple video
> > > > frames (8K video should be supported), so VPR sizes of ~2 GiB are
> > > > expected. However, some devices cannot afford to reserve this amount
> > > > of memory for a particular use-case, and therefore the VPR must be
> > > > resizable.
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately, resizing the VPR is slightly tricky because the GPU found
> > > > on Tegra SoCs must be in reset during the VPR resize operation. This is
> > > > currently implemented by freezing all userspace processes and calling
> > > > invoking the GPU's freeze() implementation, resizing and the thawing the
> > > > GPU and userspace processes. This is quite heavy-handed, so eventually
> > > > it might be better to implement thawing/freezing in the GPU driver in
> > > > such a way that they block accesses to the GPU so that the VPR resize
> > > > operation can happen without suspending all userspace.
> > > > 
> > > > In order to balance the memory usage versus the amount of resizing that
> > > > needs to happen, the VPR is divided into multiple chunks. Each chunk is
> > > > implemented as a CMA area that is completely allocated on first use to
> > > > guarantee the contiguity of the VPR. Once all buffers from a chunk have
> > > > been freed, the CMA area is deallocated and the memory returned to the
> > > > system.
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I believe we (the Android team) are trying to solve similar issue to yours: Arm
> > > CPUs can still speculatively read memory after it has been transitioned to the
> > > Secure state, as long as they retain a cacheable mapping to it.
> > > 
> > > As modifying the direct mapping is difficult, the workaround ended up in the
> > > hypervisor which unmaps the pages from the host stage-2 on intercepted FF-A Lend
> > > invocations.
> > > 
> > > If convenient, this is nonetheless the wrong place to do it. Scattering the host
> > > stage-2 is really terrible for performance and we would like to move it where it
> > > should be, directly into the kernel...
> > > 
> > > This is what I thought was the attempt in v3, but I am now a bit confused
> > > because I see you are using set_direct_map_invalid_noflush()
> > > set_direct_map_default_noflush(), but I am not sure that works if rodata=full is
> > > not set? So does the memory for the NVIDIA IP still need to be unmapped?
> > 
> > Yeah, this currently relies on the circumstances being such that
> > can_set_direct_map() returns true, and in the case where we want to use
> > the resizable VPR functionality, we're going to have page-granular
> > mappings anyway.
> > 
> > > If so, how about having an option where the CMA allocation is backed by a direct
> > > map with the same page granularity, or at least a smaller and aligned granule?
> > > 
> > > With that, we know that for whatever CMA allocation we do, we can safely unmap
> > > from the direct map without risking splitting blocks. On CMA free, we can safely
> > > remap into the direct map as I do not believe we coalesce yet.
> > 
> > This sounds intriguing. For VPR we could possibly make the size a
> > multiple of the memblock size (or whatever might be appropriate). If we
> > can create a page-granular linear mapping specifically for that region,
> > that'd be ideal. I don't know if the linear mapping can be subdivided in
> > this fashion, though.
> 
> Actually I don't think modifying the memblock is necessary at all!
> 
> Here's what I have so far:
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
> index d4de88770ecf..a9f81413b70d 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
> @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
>  #include <linux/fs.h>
>  #include <linux/io.h>
>  #include <linux/mm.h>
> +#include <linux/of_fdt.h>
>  #include <linux/vmalloc.h>
>  #include <linux/set_memory.h>
>  #include <linux/kfence.h>
> @@ -1138,6 +1139,27 @@ static inline void arm64_kfence_map_pool(void) { }
>  
>  #endif /* CONFIG_KFENCE */
>  
> +#define MAX_FORCE_PTE_REGIONS 64 /* Greater or equal to MAX_RESERVED_REGIONS */
> +
> +static struct {
> +       phys_addr_t start;
> +       phys_addr_t end;
> +} force_pte_regions[MAX_FORCE_PTE_REGIONS] __initdata;
> +
> +void __init early_init_dt_force_pte_arch(phys_addr_t start, phys_addr_t end)
> +{
> +       static int count;
> +
> +       if (force_pte_mapping())
> +               return;
> +
> +       if (count >= MAX_FORCE_PTE_REGIONS)
> +               return;
> +
> +       force_pte_regions[count].start = start;
> +       force_pte_regions[count++].end = end;
> +}
> +
>  static void __init map_mem(void)
>  {
>         static const u64 direct_map_end = _PAGE_END(VA_BITS_MIN);
> @@ -1186,6 +1208,15 @@ static void __init map_mem(void)
>         __map_memblock(init_end, kernel_end, pgprot_tagged(PAGE_KERNEL),
>                        flags);
>  
> +       for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(force_pte_regions); i++) {
> +               if (!force_pte_regions[i].end)
> +                       break;
> +
> +               __map_memblock(force_pte_regions[i].start, force_pte_regions[i].end,
> +                              pgprot_tagged(PAGE_KERNEL),
> +                              flags | NO_BLOCK_MAPPINGS | NO_CONT_MAPPINGS);
> +       }

Interesting. I had been thinking more along the lines of adding this
directly into memblock using a new entry in enum memblock_flags. None of
the existing ones seem to do what we need here, though some are closely
related. MEMBLOCK_SECURE or MEMBLOCK_PROTECTED are quite specific and
don't necessarily mean that we need the mapping to be page-granular, so
MEMBLOCK_PAGE_GRANULAR is perhaps clearer.

Adding this to memblock has the advantage of not needing that fixed-size
force_pte_regions side-channel, but obviously it means that we can only
operate at memblock size granularity. With the above proposal, what
happens if the for_each_mem_range() below covers a region that you've
already __map_memblock()'ed above?

> +
>         /* map all the memory banks */
>         for_each_mem_range(i, &start, &end) {
>                 /*
> diff --git a/drivers/of/of_reserved_mem.c b/drivers/of/of_reserved_mem.c
> index 42e3e2d8a2b8..445f204f01e4 100644
> --- a/drivers/of/of_reserved_mem.c
> +++ b/drivers/of/of_reserved_mem.c
> @@ -136,6 +136,8 @@ static int __init early_init_dt_reserve_memory(phys_addr_t base,
>         return memblock_reserve(base, size);
>  }
>  
> +void __weak early_init_dt_force_pte_arch(phys_addr_t start, phys_addr_t end) { }
> +
>  /*
>   * __reserved_mem_reserve_reg() - reserve memory described in the
>   * first entry in 'reg' property
> @@ -168,6 +170,9 @@ static int __init __reserved_mem_reserve_reg(unsigned long node,
>         size = s;
>  
>         if (size && early_init_dt_reserve_memory(base, size, nomap) == 0) {
> +               if (of_get_flat_dt_prop(node, "force-pte", NULL))
> +                       early_init_dt_force_pte_arch(base, base + size);
> +
>                 fdt_fixup_reserved_mem_node(node, base, size);
>                 pr_debug("Reserved memory: reserved region for node '%s': base %pa, size %lu MiB\n",
>                          uname, &base, (unsigned long)(size / SZ_1M));
> @@ -517,6 +522,9 @@ static int __init __reserved_mem_alloc_size(unsigned long node, const char *unam
>                 return -ENOMEM;
>         }
>  
> +       if (of_get_flat_dt_prop(node, "force-pte", NULL))
> +               early_init_dt_force_pte_arch(base, base + size);
> +
>         fdt_fixup_reserved_mem_node(node, base, size);
>         fdt_init_reserved_mem_node(node, uname, base, size);
> diff --git a/include/linux/of_fdt.h b/include/linux/of_fdt.h
> index 51dadbaa3d63..6c73c76dee1b 100644
> --- a/include/linux/of_fdt.h
> +++ b/include/linux/of_fdt.h
> @@ -74,6 +74,7 @@ extern void early_init_dt_check_for_usable_mem_range(void);
>  extern int early_init_dt_scan_chosen_stdout(void);
>  extern void early_init_fdt_scan_reserved_mem(void);
>  extern void early_init_fdt_reserve_self(void);
> +extern void early_init_dt_force_pte_arch(phys_addr_t start, phys_addr_t end);
>  extern void early_init_dt_add_memory_arch(u64 base, u64 size);
>  extern u64 dt_mem_next_cell(int s, const __be32 **cellp);
>  
> > 
> > > (This alignment is not necessary for upcoming systems with BBML3)
> > > 
> > > However, to implement this, we'd need to split memblocks and I believe the only
> > > way at the moment is temporarily mark it as "nomap" which didn't seem very
> > > popular in the comments on v3.
> > 
> > Could this be simplified if this type of allocation is always memblock
> > aligned?
> > 
> > Looking at map_mem(), it seems like we could add some sort of special-
> > casing in the for_each_mem_range() block to check if the memory is VPR
> > (or generic, page-granular carveout, or whatever we want to call it) and
> > set NO_BLOCK_MAPPINGS | NO_CONT_MAPPINGS in that case.
> > 
> > If that works, set_direct_map_*() could be enhanced to detect such cases
> > and always work. Or perhaps a more specific API could be introduced.
> > 
> > Thierry
> 
> for set_direct_map() I think we could extend it to check if it is mapped at the
> PTE-level and if it is we can proceed?
> 
> I am currently looking at extending CMA with an option "unmap-on-alloc;" that
> would only be available if CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_SET_DIRECT_MAP, or
> cma_set_unmap_on_alloc, or if "force-pte;" is set. 

I suppose we could add something like this into the new cma_alloc_at()
function that I proposed in v5. The use-case for that is already quite
specific (i.e. it essentially means the CMA is externally managed) and
that might be what similar drivers may want to do. I don't know if it
would be more generally applicable to regular cma_alloc() users, too.

Thierry

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-18 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-07 15:54 [PATCH v4 00/10] dma-buf: heaps: Add support for Tegra VPR Thierry Reding
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] dt-bindings: reserved-memory: Document " Thierry Reding
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] dt-bindings: display: tegra: Document memory regions Thierry Reding
2026-08-12 22:33   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] dt-bindings: gpu: host1x: Document memory-regions for NVDEC Thierry Reding
2026-08-12 22:34   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] bitmap: Add bitmap_allocate() function Thierry Reding
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] mm/cma: Allow dynamically creating CMA areas Thierry Reding
2026-08-07 16:16   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-10 14:14     ` Thierry Reding
2026-08-10 19:06       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] dma-buf: heaps: Add debugfs support Thierry Reding
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] dma-buf: heaps: Add support for Tegra VPR Thierry Reding
2026-08-13 18:25   ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-14 12:56     ` Thierry Reding
2026-08-17 17:22       ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-18 10:48         ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] arm64: tegra: Add VPR placeholder node on Tegra234 Thierry Reding
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] arm64: tegra: Hook up VPR to host1x Thierry Reding
2026-08-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] arm64: tegra: Add VPR placeholder node on Tegra264 Thierry Reding

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